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Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 02, 2011, 07:51:35 pm
NOTE: This thread is the genuine thoughts and feelings of a long time iOS user switching to Android for the first time. It is here to help other iOS users if they are considering switching to Android. The editing will be crap. It will just be my thoughts, jotted down as they come. This is not an anti-Android thread. I have sold my iPhone, so it is in my best interest to fall in love with Android.



I've done it.

After four years of iOS, the lure of Android was too much.

Frankly I was bored of iOS. What do I have to look forward to in iOS5? A decent notification system. Well my iPhone is jailbroken, so I've had a decent notification system for years. I'm sick of fart apps, and childrens games which dominate the App Stores Top 20. For my first two years of owning an iPhone, I checked the top 20 every day. But now the innovation has ended. Everything has been made. I havn't checked the top 20 in months.

It was time for change.

So I just unboxed my Samsung Galaxy S2.
My immediate reaction?

Unbelievably, disappointment. This thing is 'tinny'. Its extremely light, and extremely plastic. After carrying a very heavy, very solid feeling iPhone for so long, this feels like a toy which is going to break. The back cover is a piece of plastic about 0.00001mm thick which you must click off with your fingernail to install the battery. While clicking it back in, it felt like all the little tabs were breaking off. I cant believe I spent so much money on this toy. I should have waited for the new iPhone to come out, so I could compare. Damn it.

But anyway, this thread is about the OS, not the phone. I'm sure the Galaxy will grow on me once I learn its true power.


My first thoughts upon turning on the phone was that there was a lot of 'colour', and variation. On the dull iOS, I always knew where to look, and what I was supposed to do. I can immediately see why older people, or not so tech savvy people prefer the very easy to use iOS. Android is going to take some learning. The default keyboard is absolutely terrible. I keep hitting the wrong button. The animations are ugly. Double tapping the space bar does not leave a full stop and a space like I am used to. There is no autocorrect!!? I open the web browser. It feels clunky. It scrolls too fast. There is no rotation animation (probably due to Apple patents, I know). Never the less, its not visually satisfying. The GetSome website looks fantastic on the big screen. There are flash advertisements! Great! But flash does look pretty cool. Typing in another web address on the crappy keyboard frustrates me, so I give up and go to my computer to start this review. Going back to the home screen, closing things seems to 'lag'. Wtf? I have one of the fastest phones in the world.

After 10 minutes, my impression is poor. But I know I havn't even begun. More to come.


Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Zarkov on September 02, 2011, 07:57:14 pm
I wish I were young and tech savvy like you Berg.

Then maybe I would buy one.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 02, 2011, 07:59:55 pm
Not only must you be tech savvy, but also a 'phat dude', like me.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on September 02, 2011, 08:46:27 pm
I haven't been impressed by android either, the home page is a bit confusing, and the keyboards not that great either. From my experience I would prefer iOS over android.

I know you can change the default keyboard, but I'm the kind of person who would rather have a phone that just works great, instead of spending lots of time customizing it. Saying that, that's the advantage of android, and it would be great for people to like to do a lot of customization.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: solman on September 02, 2011, 08:55:27 pm
I look forward to more installments Berg.... I've been a fan of iOS for quite some time and when work FORCED me onto the silly windows mobile 6.5 phone I lost my iPhone to my wife (and she will not give it back), I've only had a couple of plays with Android and neither of them were long enough to give a fair review of the system (which I'm sure is very good) but my immediate thoughts were... they are just trying to emulate the iPhone...

Please disprove this theory and convince me that getting an android when I secure my new job is the right move (without bagging Apple's marketing and profits)
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Spigalau on September 02, 2011, 09:05:55 pm
Berg - enable swype
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 04, 2011, 02:43:07 pm
So when you buy a powerful phone you want to see what it can do, with a graphically intensive game. So I started looking through the market. I have already downloaded "Smart Keyboard", so am now typing with speed. The first thing I noticed was every game has a long list of what phones it is compatible with. So you have to make sure this app will work with your phone. This is a major inconvenience to iOS, where all apps work with everything (almost). I then scroll down to the reviews. Most of these seem to consist of: "DOESNT WORK WITH HTC HERO". "DOESNT WORK WITH MOTOROLA ATRIX". "DONT SAY THAT IT WORKS WITH SAMSUNG GALAXY WHEN IT DOESNT". So rather than actual reviews of the product, just whinging about what phones dont work. Its quite bizarre.

I download my game, and get a notification when its done. I go into the game, and it says 'Downloading' with a very slow moving progress bar at the bottom. I thought it had already downloaded? Oh well. I close out, so it can download in the background. Android has great multitasking right? I go back in an hour later, and the progress bar starts again. So it seems I have to stay in the app to let it download. I cant be bothered, so as of yet I have not played a game on the galaxy.

Texting. I'm sick of having to go into messages app to text. iOS has the incredible BiteSMS, with quickreply and quick compose. Surely there are hundreds of apps that do this in the market. There is. I download 'chompsms' (made by Bitesms). I go into quick compose settings so I can set how I want to open it. There are only two options: long press search button or something else. I have neither a search button or the other thing. Chompsms is useless to me. On iOS, these types of things were controlled by activator. I could set whatever I liked to open my quick compose. Swipe the status bar left to right? Right to left? Down? Hold the status bar? Hold the home button? Hold the power button? Hit volume up then tap the HUD? Shake the phone? Draw a diagonal line on the screen? Anything.

There must be an activator for Android. I do a google search. Hundreds of others have asked the same question and...there isnt. Why the hell not? No one seems to know. Probably because if there was one activator for Android, there would be dozens, and none would be compatible with each other. This is a major benefit of iOS. Because the jailbreaking community is reasonably small, MOST jailbreak apps are compatible with activator (as well as activator being able to open any App Store app).

Despite android being known as more customizable, lack of activator makes this major aspect far less customizable than iOS.

Ive discovered live wallpapers. Very nice, something I couldnt really do on iOS (I could, but there wasn't nice updating weather live wallpapers etc). However, so far this is the only benefit android is giving me over iOS, along with a LOT of negatives.

I spend a lot of time outside in the bright sun. The super AMOLED screen looks absolutely supurb, I can see it in all lighting conditions.

My live wallpaper has drained 15% more battery, I disable it.

I hop in the car. Thats what I need, a car dock! My Belkin Tunebase Direct has served me well with the iPhone. I dock it, it charges, and I listen to music/phonecalls over bluetooth. There are no wires. I HATE wires.

(http://blog.arktis.de/wp-content/uploads/iphone-zubehor-kfz-einbaukit.jpg)


There must be something similar for Galaxy 2.

There isnt.

The nearest I can find is a windscreen attachment which simply holds the phone. I still need to attach a god damn cable. My customized android phone is not so customizable any more. I cant get the dock I want for it. With an iPhone, it may look exactly the same as everyones else iPhone, but frankly I dont care. At least I can dock it how I like. If I want a speaker dock that is shaped like a female beach vollyball players butt cheeks there probably is one for iPhone, but there isnt one for a Galaxy 2.

I set the alarm for the next morning. The mechanism for setting the alarm isnt as intuitive as the iOS number pickers. I realise these little things are really bugging me. The phone app looks very cheap. This is Android, I can probably get a nice theme for it. I'll look later.






I would have thought Android would be growing on me by now. At this stage, I'll be ditching the Galaxy 2 as soon as the new iPhone (and jailbreak) comes out. I actually feel a bit sick at the money I feel I've wasted.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 04, 2011, 03:13:28 pm
I'm finding the physical back button very handy. It frees up screen real estate, and gets you out of tricky situations. Android wins here.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on September 04, 2011, 04:06:45 pm
I download the Schwarzenegger Soundboard on my HTC Windows Phone.

My life is complete.



Berg, your car is pretty flash. My car doesn't even have bluetooth, I bet your car transforms into a robot.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: mycoolcar on September 04, 2011, 04:16:17 pm
Bergs car also looks to be one of those new ones without a steering wheel.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Zarkov on September 04, 2011, 04:22:45 pm
It has air conditioning too.

Good thing Berg is young and tech savvy.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: toofast on September 04, 2011, 06:02:39 pm
You are pretty much listing the issues associated with developing an OS for specific hardware, vs developing for people to run on their own hardware.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: solman on September 04, 2011, 07:52:36 pm
so is there someone on here that has
A) gone from iPhone with iOS4 (or even 3.2) to andriod and truly enjoyed it....
B) gone from Andriod to iPhone and hated it (for genuine reasons not just cause everyone loves to hate apple)
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 04, 2011, 09:51:42 pm
Quote from: toofast;1417577
You are pretty much listing the issues associated with developing an OS for specific hardware, vs developing for people to run on their own hardware.

All things that people like Solman need to know before ditching iOS. I never thought about things such as having to trawl through the Android Market just to find apps that are compatible with your phone. I didn't think about things like lack of compatible accessories.

Everybody raves on about how superior Android is to iOS. As someone who had never owned an Android phone, I didn't feel qualified to be defending iOS. But I believed you, and thought it was time to make the switch.

Frankly, I'm yet to see the benefits.


It just goes to show... always trust Spacemonkey.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 04, 2011, 10:22:39 pm
Out of the box, iOS is better. Agreed, and this is from a person that hates Apple :)

To get true enjoyment out of your Android phone you are best trawling the xda related forum. An experiencing custom roms. The rom cooking community for Android is AMAZING, and they produce unspeakable results. The advantage of Android comes over time, the more you learn about the phone, the software, and having a look into the communities for tweaks/hacks/updates is where Android destroys its competition.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204

 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204)Check it out, have a play, come back with more results :P
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: zolteg on September 05, 2011, 12:01:55 am
Quote from: Xenolightning;1417660
Out of the box, iOS is better. Agreed, and this is from a person that hates Apple :)

To get true enjoyment out of your Android phone you are best trawling the xda related forum. An experiencing custom roms. The rom cooking community for Android is AMAZING, and they produce unspeakable results. The advantage of Android comes over time, the more you learn about the phone, the software, and having a look into the communities for tweaks/hacks/updates is where Android destroys its competition.

[url]http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204[/url]

 ([url]http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204[/url])Check it out, have a play, come back with more results :P


And this is what fucks the market up.  it's fine trawling for custom roms & searching for the right app for your phone if that's what rings your bell, you're technically literate and you have hours to spare.

Most people looking for a cellphone aren't in that space, and this is where iOS nails it.  

It. Just. Works.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an apple fanboi, but if I could get a Nokia handset that's as clear to read, easy to use and as effective as my iPhone, I'd buy it.  Unfortunately, Apple is to mobile phones now what Nokia was to them in the early 2000's, and Motorola was in the mid '90s.  State of the art.  Android's never gonna bust that, 'cos it's too divided.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Greaver on September 05, 2011, 03:41:28 am
I had an Iphone before and its simplicity is its power, but after going android I couldn't go back.

At first I was slightly disheartened but once you've had it a week and started to screw with things iOS seems far too locked down.

Won't ever go back to iOS unless Android really drops the ball and gets filled with shit.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 05, 2011, 04:47:11 am
Quote from: Xenolightning;1417660
Out of the box, iOS is better. Agreed, and this is from a person that hates Apple :)

To get true enjoyment out of your Android phone you are best trawling the xda related forum. An experiencing custom roms. The rom cooking community for Android is AMAZING, and they produce unspeakable results. The advantage of Android comes over time, the more you learn about the phone, the software, and having a look into the communities for tweaks/hacks/updates is where Android destroys its competition.

[url]http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204[/url]

 ([url]http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204[/url])Check it out, have a play, come back with more results :P


Looks good. I'm liking how they say it makes the phone faster. It just seems sluggish at the moment.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 05, 2011, 09:42:37 am
Quote from: Greaver;1417700
Won't ever go back to iOS unless Android really drops the ball and gets filled with shit.
Agree. There's no way to tell if it will, but it may, so may iOS. So its always good to have options.
 
Quote from: BerG;1417702
Looks good. I'm liking how they say it makes the phone faster. It just seems sluggish at the moment.
Yea the standard Samsung TouchWiz UX is terrible. There's a lot better options out there. If you can get MIUI for the SGS2 I'd recommend trying that. Its a compromise to the iOS look and feel, and it has a lot of standard kernel optimizations. After that, if you use iTunes for your music look into doubleTwist. Supposedly it can sync with iTunes including all your playlists etc..

Another few gem's I've found are:
Touchdown - Commercial MS Exchange email support. Really awesome app and I use it for work all the time.
My Account - Sync's with your vodafone account so you can check you remaining unpaid balance, data, minutes, txts etc...

It really depends on what you want to do with your phone. Asking people is the best way to get the best app's
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Menial on September 05, 2011, 10:02:19 am
Quote from: solman;1417613
so is there someone on here that has
A) gone from iPhone with iOS4 (or even 3.2) to andriod and truly enjoyed it....
B) gone from Andriod to iPhone and hated it (for genuine reasons not just cause everyone loves to hate apple)

Hey guy.

Had iphone; got drunk, lost iphone [in 'Hush Hush' :( lulz I' so cool], bought android (HTC), use iphone at work for app stuff.


ios sucks.  Well integrated software/hardware but such a constrained user experience.  Good for simpletons, old people, or hipsters though _b

Come at me bro, come at me.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Speakman on September 05, 2011, 10:17:01 am
@Berg: I went from Symbian to Android, and there was a bit of a learning curve. Once you learn the ins and outs of your specific phone and Android itself, you'll be away flying and will probably never look back.

If you miss some of your favourite iOS apps, have a quick google. often there are Android versions, or clones of the iOS one that will function similar.

Quote from: Xenolightning;1417727
Asking people is the best way to get the best app's


there is also an Android Apps thread around here somewhere with some pretty good reccomendations.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Emrico1 on September 05, 2011, 10:45:17 am
Quote from: Menial;1417731
Good for simpletons, old people, or hipsters.



That's their new marketing campaign isn't it?

(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z264/Emrico1/apple-good-for-simpletons.png)
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Bell on September 05, 2011, 03:04:27 pm
Berg the hipster
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Zarkov on September 05, 2011, 03:28:57 pm
I think I am all of those things.

Maybe not the first one.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Emrico1 on September 05, 2011, 05:33:08 pm
More just the first two
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 06, 2011, 07:27:33 pm
Three days on, and I can feel a very slight feeling of pride when looking at the S2.
 
Its different. Its not perfectly stable, and it doesnt 'just work'.

But it sure is pretty, isnt it?





Not to mention, after changing to Litenight Rom my battery is now at 61% after a full day of use. My only gripe, other than shitty car chargers, is this:

When you are in the keyboard, say typing in a username for a website login, how do you 'tab' to the next input box? (ie password). On iOS, there was always a 'next' box on the keyboard.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: toofast on September 06, 2011, 08:19:58 pm
Quote from: BerG;1418447
When you are in the keyboard, say typing in a username for a website login, how do you 'tab' to the next input box? (ie password). On iOS, there was always a 'next' box on the keyboard.

What keyboard are you using? There is a next on the "android" one , but not on the swype one i am using now.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 06, 2011, 08:20:03 pm
^ Get swype, it provides the 'next ' box. Its also is THE best way of 'typing' anything fast. You can sign up for the beta, and get it free. In saying that I thought Samsung's came stock with swype.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 06, 2011, 08:25:04 pm
I used swype for about 20 seconds and didnt like it. Currently using smart keyboard. Maybe I'll try Swype again.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Speakman on September 06, 2011, 08:28:04 pm
you'll learn to love it. I wasn't a fan at first either. I'll never tap-type again
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 06, 2011, 08:33:08 pm
Mmm I got no next box with Swype. Just an 'enter' arrow which will take me to the next line.

And I think the S2's screen is too big for Swype. Need two hands in landscape.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 06, 2011, 08:35:11 pm
Yeah, you're right. Looks as though it only works in some cases. Oh well :)

If you are using two hands, hold the phone in one hand. Swype with the other.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Speakman on September 06, 2011, 08:36:08 pm
yeah it seems to be vary, which is a shame
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: toofast on September 06, 2011, 08:46:05 pm
Quote from: toofast;1418466
What keyboard are you using? There is a next on the "android" one , but not on the swype one i am using now.

Did anyone read what i said.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 06, 2011, 08:52:11 pm
Quote from: toofast;1418491
Did anyone read what i said.
No.

In saying that my post was meant for berg, you just snuck in before me. Also it does exist on swype, even if its not on your 'one'.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 06, 2011, 08:53:50 pm
Sorry toofast.

What is the 'android' keyboard?

I cant believe we dont have this next button.

Its unpossible.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: oefox on September 06, 2011, 09:02:57 pm
I have TAB key on my Android, right next to the A key....but then I do have a keyboard

(http://www.htc.com/managed-assets/www/smartphones/htc-desire-z/features/ksp1.png)

Steve Jobs didn't want a keyboard so why should you? Makes emailing with full punctuation a synch - having that made me sell my netbook as it made it redundant.[H][/H]
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: toofast on September 06, 2011, 09:07:03 pm
The default keyboard which comes with android (which may or may not be installed on the rom you get from factory). You can hold down the text entry, and choose input method. Then there should be an option called android keyboard.

Possibly this will have it. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.moo.android.inputmethod.latin.free&hl=en

Also xeno, i guess i meant for the swype beta.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 15, 2011, 07:25:06 pm
One week on, and I've been penetrating deep into the galaxy's innards.

The phone is custom rommed, rooted, odexed, deodexed, zipaligned and a whole bunch of other stuff that I dont understand.

Yet after all that....the phone still sucks. Its not smooth enough. Its not pretty enough. Its really not even customizable enough due to lack of activator and even lack of powerful, easy to use profile apps (tasker was WTF!? in the brief time I looked at it). I just dont like it.

One of my biggest gripes is texting. There is no good SMS app for Android. I have tried all the ones that are 'apparently' the best, and they just dont match BiteSMS for iOS. Even ChompSMS, MADE BY THE BITESMS TEAM, sucks. Why do all Android apps have to look so ugly? Why is there so much clutter? I'm guessing its to do with having to makes apps that deal with the differing screen sizes/resolutions of all the different Android powered phones, as the stock Samsung apps are the best looking I've found. Another example are notes apps. After installing a custom ROM I lost Samsungs excellent memo app. No problem, I'll get one on the market. Well I ended up trying about 15, and they all sucked. Either too complex (I JUST WANT TO WRITE NOTES NOT SYNC WITH GOOGLE ETC), too ugly, or both and more.

You may call me some girly iPhone user who should appreciate functionality more than looks. But as with my games, I also prefer my apps too look good. Especially being used to the very well polished iOS world.

The phone crashes or becomes unresponsive at least once a day. Probably to do with my custom ROM, but I work a 14 hour day and cant be bothered fixing it for now. But it does enrage me.

It manages to make at least one phone call a day to random contacts while in my pocket, even with the stock lock screen enabled. I have no idea how.

Most businesses do not have an official Android app like they do on iOS (subway etc), another annoyance.

And of course the lack of accessories. It enrages me having to plug a cable into the phone when I get it the car because there is no such thing as a Galaxy S2 car charging dock.


So to all the people out there on a jailbroken, heavily modified iOS who is considering switching to Android (actually just you solman), I would say, dont. The only thing you are missing out on are a large selection of live wallpapers, custom keyboards, and some pretty yet largely useless home screen widgets. The Marketplace is shit, there is a large amount of incompatibility, and it doesnt appear to be regionalised, so I have to read reviews from Americans (not much use when looking at a weather app etc).  I have given Android a fair chance by purchasing what is considered the best Android phone, and it sucks. It feels cheap, it seems slower than an iPhone 4, it has shit battery life, and most infuriatingly, it lags slightly in loading the lock screen after pressing a hardware button when trying to unlock.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on September 15, 2011, 07:30:58 pm
Would you consider going back to iPhone?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 15, 2011, 07:34:50 pm
I will definitely go back to iPhone when the iPhone 5 is released.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: oefox on September 15, 2011, 10:13:54 pm
TBH I don't think the SGS is the best android phone and I personally don't like the cheap feel of it, top tier, but not the best.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Retardobot on September 16, 2011, 11:12:58 am
That's what I have heard time and time again.

Feels horrible. Specs are pretty up there but it's put together rather cheaply.

I hate to say it, but the iPhone 4 is the best looking cellphone. Not sure about how it works as I've never used a 4th gen one before.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Menial on September 16, 2011, 11:17:07 am
I chose the desire hd because it's heavy, hope that helps
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 16, 2011, 12:02:15 pm
Just remember my 'review' is from a long time iOS user, to other long time iOS users. If you have always owned Android, or have never owned a smartphone, Android may be the better option as you wont be used to the 'perfection' that is jailbroken iOS ;)
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Arseynimz on September 16, 2011, 12:21:56 pm
Front paged because I hadn't seen this, and was a good read. ty BerG.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: toofast on September 16, 2011, 12:45:08 pm
Quote from: RetardoBot;1422426
That's what I have heard time and time again.

Feels horrible. Specs are pretty up there but it's put together rather cheaply.

I hate to say it, but the iPhone 4 is the best looking cellphone. Not sure about how it works as I've never used a 4th gen one before.

Yea android phones still haven't cracked the top market well. I mean they are churning out quality stuff, but the fact you develop for so much hardware, means you can't make specific tweaks for the high end stuff. Which is half the reason most the factory apps run the best, and the UI is so slick.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Mr_St1nky on September 16, 2011, 02:55:01 pm
Quote from: ;
I've gone from an HTC Wildfire to a Galaxy 2 so I haven't been tainted by iOS. I don't have many issues with the samsung, design wise the only thing I miss is a notification light on the front of the phone when I have notifications but the screen is off. Have to press a button to see that.  Samsung requires a lot more start up configuration, like in the OP, double space will put a fullstop in only after you set it to do it. I prefer my Android Galaxy 2 simply because alot of my clients have issues with getting their iPhones and Blackberry's to do simple shit, and my Galaxy doesn't have any issues doing it out of the box. (i.e blackberry's not receiving calendar invites from iPhones, but my Galaxy sends and receives invites just fine.)
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: 9unk on September 18, 2011, 05:22:03 pm
Quote from: ;

Just had a read through this. Find me on appbrain.com 9unk is my username..... Uhm for sms I use handcent. My favourite keyboard is the gingerbread. It has tab and double space = full stop. I'm a little concerned at your comments that it is slow compared to iphone 4... I've got an HTC hero which is an oldish android phone but it was all I could afford. I've rooted it and installed a custom rom and its working alright.If you're looking for a good custom rom super stable etc. Look at http://www.villainrom.co.uk as out of all the roms I tried for my hero it was firstly the most stable/fastest/least buggy roms. I've spent many hours fiddling with my android and you do need far too much time to get it to exactly how you want it... However... after you have had one android phone and then move to your next one you'll be able to do everything much quicker. Nice to see the review/thoughts and cheers for putting it on front page Arsey.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Arseynimz on September 18, 2011, 05:27:59 pm
Quote from: 9unk;1423252
I've spent many hours fiddling with my android and you do need far too much time to get it to exactly how you want it... However... after you have had one android phone and then move to your next one you'll be able to do everything much quicker. Nice to see the review/thoughts and cheers for putting it on front page Arsey.

What you've said here is exactly the thing about Android that both frustrates me and excites me. I dislike that I have to work like a developer to my hardware working to the point I want it at, but yet it also excites me that I can do that work, and be rewarded hugely for not only the current handset, but likely many in the future. It is also a thought I have about Tablets, and my iPad vs. Android Tab argument with myself continues to rage lol.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Retardobot on September 18, 2011, 05:54:30 pm
I'll be making a similar thread in the coming days.

Ordered an Asus Eee Pad Transformer boasting Honeycomb 3.1.

Will be interesting to see what I have to do in order to get it the way I want it.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 18, 2011, 06:16:47 pm
Quote from: 9unk;1423252
Uhm for sms I use handcent.

Yep I tried that. I'm not sure if you've ever used BiteSMS on iOS, but Handcent, ProSMS etc just dont compare for me.

Quote from: 9unk;1423252
 My favourite keyboard is the gingerbread. It has tab and double space = full stop..

One thing I really like about Android is the large range of custom keyboards. I'm very happy with Smart Keyboard, though every keyboard I've tried does not have a tab button so I'm guessing its an issue with my phone. But when I think about it, I never had an issue with the stock iOS keyboard, and its autocorrect was great. The Galaxy's select/copy/paste system is very slow and hard to use.

Quote from: 9unk;1423252
I've spent many hours fiddling with my android and you do need far too much time to get it to exactly how you want it... However... after you have had one android phone and then move to your next one you'll be able to do everything much quicker.

I have spent many, many hours, and am pretty sure I've done all I can to try and get this thing into my good books :(

Quote from: 9unk;1423252
Nice to see the review/thoughts and cheers for putting it on front page Arsey.

If I'd have know it was going to be front page I'd have put some effort into editing :o[/COLOR]
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 18, 2011, 06:19:56 pm
Quote from: 9unk;1423252
Look at [url]http://www.villainrom.co.uk[/url] as out of all the roms I tried for my hero it was firstly the most stable/fastest/least buggy roms.


Have been looking at that for a while. Just getting a bit sick of wiping the phone, flashing a ROM, setting it up, spending the day with it, not liking it, and starting again :(

Might give it a go tonight :)

As for the Galaxy being slow- it just is. I'm guessing its more a phone issue than an Android issue. Check out this wake up lag which according to every thread I've found, cannot yet be fixed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ3pMWTdWHY
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: pyro on September 18, 2011, 07:10:51 pm
1/2 second is a major issue?

Ive got the Galaxy S and I love it, used both iphone and android and much prefer my Galaxy S. Never liked the Swype initially but went back to it after a while and now would never go back, I don't use it in landscape mode as I had the issue of having to use 2 hands like you mentioned. Once you are used to it though its far quicker than anything else I have used.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on September 18, 2011, 07:18:34 pm
Quote from: pyro;1423301
1/2 second is a major issue?

In 1/2 a second I can wake up my phone, check if I have any new emails, then switch it to sleep again. It would be quite annoying if it took as long as in that video.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 18, 2011, 07:19:01 pm
Quote from: pyro;1423301
1/2 second is a major issue?.

FUCK YES.

We have the fastest most powerful phone in the world, why do we have to wait a second if we want to check the time?

Jesus Christ it drives me insane.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: pyro on September 18, 2011, 07:26:41 pm
Quote from: BerG;1423305
$#@! YES.

We have the fastest most powerful phone in the world, why do we have to wait a second if we want to check the time?

Jesus Christ it drives me insane.

LOL actually to be fair the one thing that annoys me about the Galaxy is the lack of a floating time, but you can get apps for it.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on September 18, 2011, 07:28:15 pm
In this world of fast food, angry birds, and internet porn, the human brain has evolved to have an attention span of only a tenth of a second.


Anything longer, we'd get bored and have to find something productive to do.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 18, 2011, 07:30:30 pm
Just installed MIUI Rom. Very much liking this!
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 18, 2011, 08:13:55 pm
Quote from: BerG;1423314
Just installed MIUI Rom. Very much liking this!
Kekekeke, yea its the ultimate middle ground between iOS and Android. Has serious iOS look and feel but you don't lose anything android. In the absurdly large amount of ROM's I've tried it is definitely the stand out one.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Arseynimz on September 18, 2011, 08:58:51 pm
Quote from: BerG;1423314
Just installed MIUI Rom. Very much liking this!

Link?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 18, 2011, 09:50:08 pm
Quote from: Arseynimz;1423332
Link?

http://miuiandroid.com/ or
http://miui.us/
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: monpepe on September 19, 2011, 09:20:13 am
good read

thinking about getting a smart phone at the end of the year. Looks like iOS may be best for me. I am tech illiterate, not that much of a tech/PC/omg apple is bad fanboy, and also CBF having to download stuff to make my phone good.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 19, 2011, 09:36:38 am
Yes iOS sounds right for you.

And jailbreaking iOS is as simple as downloading a program and clicking the jailbreak button. Far easier than installing ROMS to customize an Android phone.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: monpepe on September 19, 2011, 09:52:14 am
what does jail breaking do? allow? worth it? Doesn't void warranty?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: dirtyape on September 19, 2011, 09:58:47 am
It allows you to install cydia, which in turn allows you to install other things it's like an alternate appstore, but also very much like apt. You can add software repositories that in turn allow you download crap from them. But probably the most common use is to install a thing called installous which is a pirate version of the appstore where you get all your crap for free.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 19, 2011, 09:59:10 am
Allows access to the Cydia Store which is basically like the Android Market.  It allows you to install things Apple dont want you to so you can truly customize the phone.

Officially voids warranty but if you have issues just restore to a stock firmware and they will never know. And I dont think they care, when I left my jailbroken 3GS docked on my cars windscreen on an extremely hot day and melted it, I sent it back and Apple replaced it no questions asked.

This thread only compares Android to jailbroken iOS. Stock iOS, in my opinion, is shit.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: dirtyape on September 19, 2011, 10:00:14 am
snap
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 19, 2011, 10:00:21 am
Quote from: dirtyape;1423429
But probably the most common use is to install a thing called installous which is a pirate version of the appstore where you get all your crap for free.

That is definitely not the most common use! Its dropkicks that use Installous that give jailbreaking a bad name,
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 19, 2011, 10:02:47 am
Quote from: BerG;1423430
This thread only compares Android to jailbroken iOS. Stock iOS, in my opinion, is shit.
Android "Stock" (can include TouchWiz or other variants) or iOS stock? What be your say?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 19, 2011, 10:04:21 am
If jailbreaking was not possible I would go with Android for sure!
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: 9unk on September 19, 2011, 11:26:59 am
Quote from: Arseynimz;1423255
What you've said here is exactly the thing about Android that both frustrates me and excites me. I dislike that I have to work like a developer to my hardware working to the point I want it at, but yet it also excites me that I can do that work, and be rewarded hugely for not only the current handset, but likely many in the future. It is also a thought I have about Tablets, and my iPad vs. Android Tab argument with myself continues to rage lol.

 
Yup it is really frustrating but I don't know how i'd react if I had that power taken away from me...

@ berg

I've never really used iOS apart from playing around on my mates phone so haven't had the full experience. I should really borrow an iphone 4 for a week/month or so just so I can give it a go. So I don't really know about the Bite SMS

One thing though from limited use of the iOS standard keyboard is that I hate the letter pop-up. I've disabled it and sure I could probably get used to it again. It's just distracting.

I went through a stage where I was flashing a new rom every couple of days. Once I found villainrom there just didn't seem a point anymore. The Miui looks interesting. Quite a clean look but I'm more minimalist and use a lot of the text type widgets.

Also what launcher do you use?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 19, 2011, 11:37:29 am
Quote from: 9unk;1423454
Also what launcher do you use?

If he's using MIUI, it has its own launcher. Can get the "clone" http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/miui-launcher-clone-brings-the-miui-home-screen-to-all-android-devices/ (http://[URL)]here
[/URL]IMO, Zeam is one of the best "minimalist" launchers out there.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: oefox on September 19, 2011, 12:03:14 pm
Consdering that it's getting harder to jailbreak ios and apple are always trying to prevent it, it'd be interesting to see ios5 and how long till a jailbreaking app comes out if one does.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 19, 2011, 12:53:01 pm
Its a worry that in the past few months Apple have hired Comex, one of the great iOS Dev Team who are responsible for our jailbreaks. They have also hired another prominent jailbreak developer and it looks like they are about to take Musclenerd (http://modmyi.com/content/5315-jailbreakers-befuddled-musclenerd-s-mysterious-visit-apple.html).
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on September 19, 2011, 01:01:17 pm
Quote from: BerG;1423500
Its a worry that in the past few months Apple have hired Comex, one of the great iOS Dev Team who are responsible for our jailbreaks. They have also hired another prominent jailbreak developer and it looks like they are about to take Musclenerd ([url]http://modmyi.com/content/5315-jailbreakers-befuddled-musclenerd-s-mysterious-visit-apple.html[/url]).


Ha, that's pretty awesome in a way.

Microsoft does the same kind of thing "Stop hacking our software or we will be forced to hire you!"
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: O-L-W-A-G on September 19, 2011, 07:44:23 pm
Quote from: ;
Apple hire list: Comex Musclenerd Geohot(Mark Zuckerburg must die) Saurik p0sixninja
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Arnifix on September 21, 2011, 01:01:05 am
Quote from: ;
If you're too dumb to learn to customize and work an Android phone, you are too dumb to successfully jailbreak an iPhone. Stock iPhone or personalized Android, there are your real choices.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 21, 2011, 04:48:16 am
Quote from: Arnifix;1424144
If you're too dumb to learn to customize and work an Android phone, you are too dumb to successfully jailbreak an iPhone.


Haha. Uh yeah wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN2c0tcoYRA
 

Besides, these 'dumb' people you talk about (ie war veterans, business people that dont give a shit and just want a easy to to use phone), should clearly go iOS. If you are that 'dumb' and dont care about advanced features, then its superior stock iOS vs shithouse stock Android.

This thread is about jailbroken iOS vs custom rommed and modified Android.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: oefox on September 21, 2011, 09:30:57 am
Custom rommed and modified...you'll have to change your rom and try new ones out then comment again :)

I've have 3 distinctly different roms that I keep on my SD card (virtuous, cm7, miui) for mixing it up (love you titanium backup and xda forum). Great for showing people how to easily and completely change the phone in under 10 mins.

Haven't bought any apps yet.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 21, 2011, 10:13:22 am
Quote from: pando;1424220
Custom rommed and modified...you'll have to change your rom and try new ones out then comment again :)
.

I've tried about 10.

At 230mb each its a slow process on my connection!

Have settled on MIUI which I like, and its very quick. Though when I think about it, I only like this ROM because it makes it sort of like iOS, so I may as well still be on iOS :/
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on September 21, 2011, 10:20:36 am
As a consumer, I wouldn't expect to have to install 10 different roms before finding one I like.

I don't install 10 different operating systems on my computer before finding the one I like.

Customization is good, but it's not for everyone.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Retardobot on September 21, 2011, 10:42:29 am
That MIUI rom looks flippin' sexy.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Menial on September 21, 2011, 12:43:50 pm
Quote from: BerG;1423430
This thread only compares Android to jailbroken iOS. Stock iOS, in my opinion, is $#@!.

A jailbroken iOS's fan's journey into the world of SGS2 might have been a better thread title in that case.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 21, 2011, 01:34:47 pm
I like my thread titles to be misleading.

It makes the thread more intense.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: krasher on September 21, 2011, 03:01:50 pm
I would like to hear you thoughts on an HTC. My mate bought a Smamsmung and hated it, went to HTC and like it a heap better. Smoother, more stable etc.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: w1sh420 on September 21, 2011, 07:10:58 pm
HTC for the win :) if you found the samsung to feel a bit weak I've found the HTC seems a bit more solid feeling, got a Desire S and it's been great.
Good review btw
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: EnjoyTheSauce on September 21, 2011, 08:24:53 pm
Quote from: krasher;1424377
I would like to hear you thoughts on an HTC. My mate bought a Smamsmung and hated it, went to HTC and like it a heap better. Smoother, more stable etc.

I have a HTC sensation. The build is very nice, solid feel, just feels great in hand. Also, haven't had any issues with slow downs or crashes in the 2 months ive had it. Yet to try any custom Roms.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: han16 on September 22, 2011, 10:39:31 pm
Quote from: ;
Wow, very interdasting thread Berg.

Personally I've been an Android user in the past switching to iOS last year after playing about with my fathers unit, for me the iPhone is all I need.I like the idea of a hugely customisable cell phone that allows my exact preferences (this lead me to trying many different devices prior) but at the end of the day when I had 50 thousand work calls/texts/emails the iPhone just did it easier/faster. You could say that Apple has taught me something about the cell phone I carry, and thats just it...its a cellphone. I have a big overly expensive pc to satisfy my tech savvy fiddler self coupled with a laptop that would follow me to work/holiday/shitty family events faithfully so the need for another tech device that did it all was pretty much not there. In fact another device that needed my every attention was just dam annoying especially when people are counting on the reliability of my cell phone for me to correctly do my job, inappropriate crashing/hanging/being moderately slow then definitely shitty is unwelcomed when all I need is to make a dammed phone call to avoid 10 others.

I'm no Apple fanboi (ha they all say that), I'd never touch a Mac or sleep with an iPad but the iPhone...it makes sense and works well to boot for my needs. I liked the Nokia 6310, it was a fucking amazing phone and for me the iPhone 4 mirrors that.

Come at me Android peeps.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 23, 2011, 04:56:29 am
Quote from: krasher;1424377
I would like to hear you thoughts on an HTC. My mate bought a Smamsmung and hated it, went to HTC and like it a heap better. Smoother, more stable etc.

The annoying thing is, I went into a store with no major intention of buying a phone. Played with an HTC Sensation and really liked it. Told the dude behind the counter I wanted one. He told me I should wait as they are getting the Galaxy S2 in stock soon and it is superior.

I went online and read some SGS2 reviews, all of which were glowing. So I bought one online without ever seeing one IRL. Big mistake.
 
Quote from: han16;1425105
Wow, very interdasting thread Berg.

I try to make all threads as interdasting as possible.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 23, 2011, 09:46:55 am
Quote from: han16;1425105
...to satisfy my ... fiddler self...
All I read from that. :F
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 27, 2011, 08:54:23 pm
I must say I've been very happy with the phone since running MIUI rom.

Im sure its snappier than all the other roms I tried. Its been as stable as an iPhone. Home button unlock lag is almost eliminated. I've found that switching off haptic feedback on unlock seems to further speed up the phone, which I'm not sure is just an illusion or not. Unlocking the SG2 is no longer a painful experience.

I like how apps like the Dominos Pizza one give you updates in the notification bar on the status of your pizza. Very handy feature which is not available on iOS.

And I love the Hyperspace pro live wallpaper! Since AMOLED displays basically switch off with a black background, this live wallpaper uses very little power and looks damn spectacular. I still get fucking dizzy if I look through my icons and enjoy the space ride for a few moments, its great!

Other than the frustrating marketplace and poor gaming compatibility, its not too bad of a phone.


Note that my favourite clock widget has a graphical glitch in September
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/3411/20110927202431.jpg)
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Emrico1 on September 27, 2011, 09:17:20 pm
September, the measure month for designers... This guy didn't get the memo
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Xenolightning on September 28, 2011, 01:05:43 am
Short-cut for you Berg: If you use that Search "app" a lot and you don't like it on the screen, you can press menu>search or the way I do it; Long press menu then swipe to the right
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on September 28, 2011, 05:14:05 am
Thanks for the tip, but I'm unsure how turning a one step process into a two step process is a shortcut? :p
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Codex on September 28, 2011, 07:26:58 am
if you're not using miui or cyanogen you're doing it wrong

also:
http://www.calque.ch/signa/
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: oefox on September 28, 2011, 09:24:37 am
Quote from: Codex;1427514
if you're not using miui or cyanogen you're doing it wrong

also:
[url]http://www.calque.ch/signa/[/url]


Haha, I have these two roms on my SD card but having htc I prefer the very mature virtuous rom - I do swap for giggles every now and then but always come back
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Benji77 on September 28, 2011, 09:46:14 am
might have to try some other roms. Currently running oxygen on my htc desire.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: EnjoyTheSauce on September 28, 2011, 10:08:43 am
Sounds like I need MIUI to hurry up and support Sensation
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: andyb on October 02, 2011, 02:20:42 am
Quote from: ;
android is more attractive for me than iphone. You can customized it thing you want. Yet, I think there's just been a lot more progress in mobile platforms than on desktops. But still I like it.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: oefox on October 04, 2011, 03:33:04 pm
Ah well, seems I have finally found a MIUI rom that is nicer than virtuous, bulletproof, mainly because it is super stable, uses naff all ram, lets me configure the oc/uc voltages, and lets me configure the auto brightness levels.

Don't like the lock screen though and can't configure the security timeout >_<
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on October 04, 2011, 03:44:41 pm
Does everybody not use wigetlocker?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: .osiRiS on October 04, 2011, 04:22:32 pm
So iPhone 4S and possibly 5 2mrw with iOS5, going to go back Berg?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: oefox on October 04, 2011, 07:28:35 pm
WTF is widget locker? Only widget I use is calendar (liked htc calendar immensely, some other random one for miui) so I can see my daily meeting schedule and birthdays
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on October 04, 2011, 07:46:46 pm
Really depends on what they do with the display.

I'm fairly addicted to the S2's big AMOLED screen which seems to be almost immune to fingerprints.


I'm quite content with Android running MIUI rom. I no longer miss things like rotation animations. But I'm still feeling my only advantages over jailbroken iOS are live wallpapers and notifications on the status of my domino's pizza appearing in the status bar.

Still not happy with the clunky texting and desperately miss the range of accessories and car docks.

So we'll see what Apple can do...
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Zarkov on October 04, 2011, 08:24:27 pm
Have two phones.

Like me.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on October 04, 2011, 08:30:34 pm
Zarkov's mobile phones.
(http://411droid.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/old_mobile_phones_002.jpg)
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Rhys Corlett on October 10, 2011, 10:02:36 am
Quote from: ;
In many ways the app draw is a better analog to the iPhone's home screen than the Android homescreens are. As I never had the opportunity to assimilate into the Apple hive-mind, I'd never gotten use to the iPhone layout, thus I think my transition into the android OS was much easier.   The first thing to do is bin all the pre-loaded home screens and build your own. It's super easy to do and if you wanted to you could probably emulate the iPhone layout pretty closely.   I'm surprised that you thought the Galaxy S2 felt cheap. That back-plate is atrocious, but other than that it seems solid to me.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Retardobot on October 10, 2011, 10:25:00 am
http://www.myriadgroup.com/Device-Manufacturers/%7E/link.aspx?_id=19B4E921058D4E159AE1812484F11C1A&_z=z

Where is your God now?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 10, 2011, 09:04:59 pm
Quote from: RetardoBot;1433125
[url]http://www.myriadgroup.com/Device-Manufacturers/%7E/link.aspx?_id=19B4E921058D4E159AE1812484F11C1A&_z=z[/url]

Where is your God now?


Soon we'll be installing Android in out brains.

We'll be running out of power mid-way through the day.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Arnifix on October 10, 2011, 09:15:11 pm
Quote from: BerG;1430851
Still not happy with the clunky texting and desperately miss the range of accessories and car docks.
The Apple keyboard is horrendous compared to the keyboards you can get for android. SwiftkeyX is incredible, and the only reason not to get is being too much of a fatty to go without a coke one day.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on October 10, 2011, 09:30:23 pm
I would disagree, and find the iOS keyboard is one of the major things I'm missing.

I have tried multiple android keyboards, for at least a week each, including swiftkeyx and swype.

I'm not sure whether its just my years of typing on the ios keyboard, but I find it far better at guessing what I'm trying to say, and guessing what letter I'm trying to hit than any of the android keyboards.

But the most frustrating thing on android is typing in a web browser. Half the time the screen isn't where I want it to be, so I can't see what I'm typing.

I'm continually frustrated typing on Android. Typing problems are one thing I never noticed on ios.

Now I'm sorry if that doesn't make sense. I just spent about 10 mins typing it on my S2 and I'm over it.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on October 10, 2011, 09:32:12 pm
By the way- by clunky texting I meant shitty SMS apps (compared to BiteSMS on iOS).
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Zarkov on October 10, 2011, 09:40:10 pm
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1433342
Soon we'll be installing Android in out brains.

We'll be running out of power mid-way through the day.

I do that anyway.

Have to have a nap after lunch.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on October 10, 2011, 09:44:21 pm
And now that I'm back on my laptop, some more things I find frustrating with Android keyboards- text selection.

On all Roms I've tried, selecting text for cutting or copying is far more difficult than on iOS. Putting the damn curser precisely where I want it is a mission- despite the S2's very large screen.

So if I type out a paragraph, read through it and find a mistake- going back to fix it usually takes 3 or 4 attempts and becomes more frustrating than its worth. I guess the iOS magnifying glass method is probably patented, but it makes cursor positioning and text selection as incredibly fast, easy and intuitive as it should be.


Keyboards and text editing are one of the main reasons I want to go back to iOS.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: oefox on October 11, 2011, 09:53:17 am
Nothing worse than losing 33-50% of your screen to a virtual keyboard or have it in the way when you don't want it to be popped up.

If keyboards and screen real estate are of such important you could've gotten a smart phone with a physical keyboard, there are a few, and I can tell you it really increases the usability of sms, email, browsing and more. My k/b has functions that provide numerals/symbols/arrow keys, selection/cut/paste, and customisble buttons.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: doob on October 13, 2011, 05:28:05 pm
Quote from: BerG;1433358
And now that I'm back on my laptop, some more things I find frustrating with Android keyboards- text selection.

On all Roms I've tried, selecting text for cutting or copying is far more difficult than on iOS. Putting the damn curser precisely where I want it is a mission- despite the S2's very large screen.

So if I type out a paragraph, read through it and find a mistake- going back to fix it usually takes 3 or 4 attempts and becomes more frustrating than its worth. I guess the iOS magnifying glass method is probably patented, but it makes cursor positioning and text selection as incredibly fast, easy and intuitive as it should be.


Keyboards and text editing are one of the main reasons I want to go back to iOS.

 
yea i hate the precision of android's text selection BUT what i do is just double tap the word and retype it. easy. HTC desire running MIUI with gingerbread keyboard.
Title: The final chapter
Post by: BerG on October 18, 2011, 06:46:21 pm
When my iPhone 4 arrived I was shocked. Its tiny! But it didnt take long to realise a major problem I had with the Samsung - the screens just too fucking big.

After a few hours of using the iPhone I couldn't even tell that the screen was smaller. I cant remember what I was trying to achieve with that huge screen. Why was it necessary? It just made the phone harder to use. Now I can fap while browsing different porno websites at the same time.

So I think my Android experience was tarnished slightly by my choice of phone. Shit the iPhone feels good. Its so heavy and solid. The battery life is exceptional, and I'm finishing the day with 60% compared to about 10% on the Samsung.

I was worried that coming back to iPhone, it wouldn't be the same. I needn't have worried. There's not a single thing I miss about Android.

I have iTunes back, I have the App Store back. I know that everything in the App Store will work on my phone. I know every review on the App Store is from New Zealand. The games are far superior.

Its smooth, its pretty, I can dock it in my car, and it just fucking works.

I love iPhone.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 18, 2011, 09:21:07 pm
Happy Ever After.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: nzBaron on December 12, 2011, 06:42:30 am
Quote from: BerG;1436992

There's not a single thing I miss about Android.

I have iTunes back

I love iPhone.

 
Fair enough. I went from a jailbroken 3GS to a SG2 the day it came out. I was so excited I opened it up and set it up on the bus on the way home. I registered my gmail account and ... and that was all I had to do.

You can keep itunes, I will keep the flimsy backplate attached to my SG2.
external storage with straightforward usb access and no mothertrucking itunes is all I need
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Codex on December 12, 2011, 08:00:13 am
I have made the jump from my 3gs to an s2

I hope I never have to use iOS again, it doesn't even compare really. The iOS interface feels clumsy after using miui's.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on August 16, 2013, 03:06:38 pm
Its been almost two years to the day since I first, regrettably, delved into the world of Android.

"Its the superior OS" they told me. "Its now matured" they said.

They were wrong.

The Samdung Galaxy S2 and the poor excuse for an OS it came with were pieces of complete and utter shit.

But curiosity has once again crept in, and I already know the impending iPhone 5S will be an iPhone 5 with a better CPU and camera, which does not interest me at all.

So I bought this:

(http://boygeniusreport.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/bgr-htc-one-review-2.jpg?w=942)


So far I've had it about an hour, and unlike the Galaxy S2, I am loving this thing already. It feels good and solid in the hand. It looks sexy as fuck. The screen is incredible. And everything scrolls smoothly!

Its early days, but for someone who has not touched Android for 2 years let me tell you this- its come a very long fucking way.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Retardobot on August 17, 2013, 06:45:24 am
Samsung's shitty Tweak UI or whatever the fuck its called is an abortion. My GF has a Note 2 and whilst it's a good device, Samsung's bloatware constantly puts the Note 2 on its knees. I'm not sure about HTCs Sense UI which is version 5 on the One I think.

Vanilla Jellybean or ROM for me.

Good to see you're enjoying it!
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Growler on August 17, 2013, 08:04:29 am
Im using jellybeer, it's a gutted JB with some speed tweaks in it. Runs a dream on my L7, so on any phone with a half decent processor it should fucking fly like a black man on grape juice.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on August 17, 2013, 10:15:16 am
I had planned on writing this review over a few weeks while I took time to adjust to the new OS and let it grow on me.

But fuck it, I can say right now that its fantastic and I wont be going back to iOS for the foreseeable future. Stock HTC Sense is great. The only tweak I want to make is to make the 'HTC' logo a button, which it isnt by default for some incredibly stupid reason.

So if you're a long time iOS fan who demands nothing short of perfection- now is the time to buy an HTC One.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: toofast on August 17, 2013, 10:40:57 am
Anyone find it a bit annoying that htc one doesn't have a physical home button, like the galaxy. I always find those soft touch buttons annoying as shit.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Retardobot on August 17, 2013, 10:56:44 am
Naw.

My Nexus 4 doesn't have any physical buttons (bar the power and volume rocker). They're all soft touch. At first I hated how they took up screen real-estate but got used to it pretty quickly and actually prefer them. Nice smooth finish.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on August 17, 2013, 11:14:01 am
Quote from: toofast;1530055
Anyone find it a bit annoying that htc one doesn't have a physical home button, like the galaxy. I always find those soft touch buttons annoying as shit.


This is slightly annoying. But this tweak allows the HTC soft button to be used to wake the phone, so kind of makes up for it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40544876#post40544876

I (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40544876#post40544876)'ve ordered a Belkin wallet flip case and plan on installing that tweak that unlocks the phone as soon as you open the case.

When I imagine the future, I dont see anyone using physical buttons on anything. So I guess I'll try get used to it now.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: toofast on August 17, 2013, 12:09:22 pm
I do agree it makes the phone look sleek, but unless the soft key can be used when the touch screen is off, it is a bit annoying since you need to use the power button for everything. Not to mention it ruins the functionality of using the power button to end calls, and the home key to wake the phone up during the phone call (to use the dialpad, when you are on those automated lines). Maybe I will get use to it, but atm it seems a bit annoying.

Also finding it hard to adjust to the more rectangular shape vs the more rounded galaxy, in terms of how it sits in the hand and using it one handed (though that is partially due to the way i have my thumb positioned over the home button to wake my phone, and then have to shift to another position to hit the power).

However, everyone hates change, so i am sure i will adjust in time.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on August 17, 2013, 02:58:30 pm
It does work when the screen is off. I have it installed now, seems to work good.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255160
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Emrico1 on August 17, 2013, 03:03:44 pm
My prediction: Next iPhone will be almost identical to the HTC one.

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTn3U3R-9wW0P363Thn08qek-P37_Houj4-G5T0Lj7w0_xsBYux)
Lubs it.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on August 17, 2013, 03:05:38 pm
My prediction: Next iPhone will be almost identical to the iPhone 5.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Emrico1 on August 17, 2013, 03:10:31 pm
Quote from: BerG;1530068
My prediction: Next iPhone will be almost identical to the iPhone 5.

5s will for sure of course.
But whatever the next full change is (6 or whatever) it's just a good design...
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: swindle on August 18, 2013, 01:59:57 pm
The HTC One is the best Android phone on the market imo.

I can't see it being beat for a long time.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on August 18, 2013, 03:26:40 pm
Yet despite great reviews all round they have been a commercial failure, and it doesn't surprise me.

I walked into the Telecom store and told the guy I want an HTC One.

He gave me a 'are you serious?'  look,  and asked if I was sure and if I had looked at the galaxy 4. I said yes but I wanted an HTC One. He proceeded to tell me the HTC One has a 'really bad'  camera and the galaxy 4 is far more popular. He said people prefer the galaxy 4 because it has a way better camera and way more 'features'  (wtf?).

If I wasn't a savvy consumer I'd have walked out with a galaxy 4 for sure.

Do distributors make more money off them or something?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on August 18, 2013, 03:27:00 pm
Yet despite great reviews all round they have been a commercial failure, and it doesn't surprise me.

I walked into the Telecom store and told the guy I want an HTC One.

He gave me a 'are you serious?'  look,  and asked if I was sure and if I had looked at the galaxy 4. I said yes but I wanted an HTC One. He proceeded to tell me the HTC One has a 'really bad'  camera and the galaxy 4 is far more popular. He said people prefer the galaxy 4 because it has a way better camera and way more 'features'  (wtf?).

If I wasn't a savvy consumer I'd have walked out with a galaxy 4 for sure.

Do distributors make more money off them or something?
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: swindle on August 18, 2013, 07:44:59 pm
Quote from: BerG;1530103
Yet despite great reviews all round they have been a commercial failure, and it doesn't surprise me.

I walked into the Telecom store and told the guy I want an HTC One.

He gave me a 'are you serious?'  look,  and asked if I was sure and if I had looked at the galaxy 4. I said yes but I wanted an HTC One. He proceeded to tell me the HTC One has a 'really bad'  camera and the galaxy 4 is far more popular. He said people prefer the galaxy 4 because it has a way better camera and way more 'features'  (wtf?).

If I wasn't a savvy consumer I'd have walked out with a galaxy 4 for sure.

Do distributors make more money off them or something?

Not really.

Dude was just a sheep.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on August 19, 2013, 07:41:29 pm
Noticing cell reception on the HTC One is quite a bit worse than iPhone. I'm dropping calls in certain areas where I lose reception, iPhone never dropped calls in those areas. In fact I never dropped calls on iPhone.

Other than that, I picked up the iPhone to get some data off it and it felt a bit like playing with this:

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSi-FsgCIPTVJlLTIhxl_mpcpwqP2kIEauSPzhDDIpPd5og54_)

That amazing moment when something instantly becomes ancient tech.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Retardobot on August 20, 2013, 04:24:27 am
Quote from: BerG;1530104
Yet despite great reviews all round they have been a commercial failure, and it doesn't surprise me.

I walked into the Telecom store and told the guy I want an HTC One.

He gave me a 'are you serious?'  look,  and asked if I was sure and if I had looked at the galaxy 4. I said yes but I wanted an HTC One. He proceeded to tell me the HTC One has a 'really bad'  camera and the galaxy 4 is far more popular. He said people prefer the galaxy 4 because it has a way better camera and way more 'features'  (wtf?).

If I wasn't a savvy consumer I'd have walked out with a galaxy 4 for sure.

Do distributors make more money off them or something?

Fuck that angers me. Dumbass retail assistants that don't know shit about the product and just push what they prefer.

HTC one camera is in a different league than the Galaxy 4's camera. The S4 is all about mega pixels, the HTC One has actually taken a much different approach using new tech.

I'm predicting that Telecom are pushing the S4 because Samsung will more than likely have some sort of sales bonus plan - sell a certain amount and receive x amount of bonus, or free item.

HTC seem to be back in hot water. The One saved them and now Beats by Dre are buying out the 25% share that HTC have in them. Originally HTC bought 50% of the shares in Beats when it first launched for $300M and then sold half of that back to Beats for $150M when they were worth MUCH more.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: swindle on October 06, 2013, 07:24:57 pm
Loving the HTC One...
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Emrico1 on October 07, 2013, 03:26:40 pm
Quote from: swindle;1532690
Loving the HTC One...


My homie ^

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/270363e251c65fd264bf7e21264b619b/tumblr_mjbu1eOFcd1qdlh1io1_400.gif)
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: swindle on October 07, 2013, 03:35:37 pm
You know it brother.

Fucking built so well I just want to hold it.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 07, 2013, 03:49:46 pm
Get a room you two.



And setup a camera with a live feed to the forums so the rest of us can watch.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: The Demon Lord on October 07, 2013, 03:58:07 pm
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1532732
Get a room you two.



And setup a camera with a live feed to the forums so the rest of us can watch.

Could not fap to this
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Retardobot on October 07, 2013, 04:13:09 pm
You'd need a donkey and an unwashed midget in the mix.

You hippies and your free sex.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: Speakman on October 07, 2013, 05:09:45 pm
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1532732
Get a room you two.



And setup a camera with a live feed to the forums so the rest of us can watch.

That'd be a sin. I didn't die for this shit to continue
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: swindle on October 07, 2013, 06:13:49 pm
Quote from: Speakman;1532739
That'd be a sin. I didn't die for this shit to continue

Well you fucked up son.

You could have done something if you where still alive.

Whoever tricked you, tricked you good.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on October 07, 2013, 07:33:52 pm
Stop fucking up my thread, fuckholes.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on October 07, 2013, 07:38:34 pm
The HTC One really is fantastic, but the build quality is inferior to iPhone.

I've had mine what, 2 months? And its already got bits breaking off it. I was in a hurry one day and tried to put the charger in the wrong way around (as you always do with USB, wrong way first). I didn't press especially hard, and its broken off a big chunk of plastic around the USB port.

5 years of iPhones, and thousands of times trying to put an iPhone charger in the wrong way, and nothing ever broke.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: BerG on October 07, 2013, 07:44:05 pm
Android is far superior to iOS these days, but its taken a LONG LONG time for me to get it set up how I like it and get the battery life acceptable.

I must have spent a solid 80 hours trying all sorts of Roms, before settling on RGUI. Battery life was pretty shit, so have spent a whole lot of time fixing that. I love how you can download betterbatterystats and see exactly what is waking the CPU from sleep and draining battery. After sorting all the wakelocks and uninstalling all the nasty apps like facebook and google maps, battery life is exceptional.

Its more stable than (jailbroken) iOS, has never crashed or frozen.

Just loving the range of apps these days, even for things like using the proximity sensor to turn the screen on with a flip cover case. There are dozens and dozens that do it with various differences. Apps are polished although I do find the iOS equivalents to work smoother on the iPhone.
Title: An iOS fans journey into the world of Android
Post by: swindle on October 07, 2013, 07:44:59 pm
Quote from: BerG;1532750
Stop fucking up my thread, fuckholes.

Fuck your thread xoxo

Quote from: BerG;1532751
The HTC One really is fantastic, but the build quality is inferior to iPhone.

I've had mine what, 2 months? And its already got bits breaking off it. I was in a hurry one day and tried to put the charger in the wrong way around (as you always do with USB, wrong way first). I didn't press especially hard, and its broken off a big chunk of plastic around the USB port.

5 years of iPhones, and thousands of times trying to put an iPhone charger in the wrong way, and nothing ever broke.

Fuck your shitty HTC xoxo