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General => Technology & Hardware => Topic started by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 27, 2012, 02:31:49 am

Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 27, 2012, 02:31:49 am
Windows 8 has been released for general availability. From today you can buy windows 8 upgrade online, or from a retail store. Windows 8 laptops/PC's also start selling too.

Buy Online
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-NZ/windows/buy

Upgrade is $50 (untill Jan 31), it has to be upgraded from a previous version of Windows. Before buying it, you download an Upgrade Assistant which see if your computer fits the requirments.

Buy Instore
A boxed copy will be available in retail stores for an RRP of $90

Evaluation Version
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx

You can still get a 90 day evaluation. It's the Enterprise version, I would suggest installing on another partition or in a VM, so you can go back to your previous version of Windows.


Oddly enough, there is currently no stand alone full version. There will be an OEM/system builder version, i'm not sure when though.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 27, 2012, 08:22:53 am
I'm going to buy a copy to install it on my HTPC, so i'll let you know how it goes.

Netflix has an app, so does Hulu, so it will be exciting.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: swindle on October 27, 2012, 09:21:19 am
I've been playing around with it a little bit over the past week or so.

Its good. Would be real nice for the HTPC.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xenolightning on October 27, 2012, 11:09:22 am
Hmm I always thought monkey's work for Microsoft
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 27, 2012, 11:13:15 am
Quote from: Xenolightning;1506680
Hmm I always thought monkey's work for Microsoft

I am working for Microsoft.

I've been flown out to Utah for two weeks. The company I work for has a contract with Microsoft for a product implementation for a client.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: PrinceTuiTeka on October 27, 2012, 11:42:59 am
I need to do a full system reinstall etc and have to buy a copy of windows to do so. I only have an OEM of win 7 which will no longer work as its from a store bought pc that has had a few key hardware changes.

Tossing up on whether to buy an old copy of win 7 or go with the new win 8.

Any input would be awesome guys as am a bit apprehensive of throwing my lot in with 8 just yet based on experiences with win ME and Vista.

Also if anyone has a spare Win 7 license that they no longer need flick me a pm with a price and I could be keen.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: deanox on October 27, 2012, 11:58:03 am
All the advertising for Win 8 looks like its aimed at 13 year old girls. And the logos and icons, seriously think KISS has been taken a little to far to the simple side of things.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 27, 2012, 12:00:05 pm
If you want to give Win 8 a good try do this


Get VirtualBox
https://www.virtualbox.org/

Get the Evaluation Version
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx

Virtual box allows you to mount the ISO file has a drive on the virtual machine so it's easy to install.


I had to add a custom resoloution to virtualbox so it would run fullscreen on my laptop.
http://www.windows7hacker.com/index.php/2011/09/running-windows-8-on-virtualbox-with-additional-wide-screen-resolution/

But it looks awesome running as fullscreen in a VM, however don't expect performace to be that good.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on October 27, 2012, 12:26:38 pm
GONNA TRY A FRESH usb install today, only thing the prep tool says is incompatible on my pc is i wont be able to use the safeboot option as my uefi bios isnt the right version,

but no big loss there safeboot sounds like a pita..
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Bounty Hunter on October 27, 2012, 12:56:23 pm
I'll try it after SP1
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 27, 2012, 01:01:35 pm
Just got a free Windows 8 Pro key through Microsoft's Dreamspark website so can't wait to get that setup with dual-boot. Just one problem, they seem to be having some trouble with their download service, so I can't get it right now :( Does anyone know of somewhere where I can get a proper download of W8 so I can just use my key?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Bounty Hunter on October 27, 2012, 02:39:20 pm
Quote from: Dr. Acula;1506695
Just got a free Windows 8 Pro key through Microsoft's Dreamspark website so can't wait to get that setup with dual-boot. Just one problem, they seem to be having some trouble with their download service, so I can't get it right now :( Does anyone know of somewhere where I can get a proper download of W8 so I can just use my key?

dreamspark is so wonderful, except the DRM download thing, it's never worked for me, once downloaded windows 7 and hit the go button and it sat there, sat there, and then crashed, and then i opened it again and it started downloading it again.

sometimes you wonder if they just want you to pirate it.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 27, 2012, 03:17:04 pm
Yup, pretty much same problem here except it's getting to the unpacking part after downloading then saying the files corrupted or some nonsense, really tired of it. If anyone knows of a place I could download W8 Pro, I would be happy to offer a free reach around in return.
Title: Fuck Off Bing
Post by: Tiwaking! on October 27, 2012, 04:04:41 pm
How to get your Google Back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGplftLI9Fo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGplftLI9Fo
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on October 27, 2012, 04:33:31 pm
FOR THOSE THAT CBF with an upgrade .. and since there is not full version standalone yet.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1724637

oh if you have the upgrade version check this link.

do a fresh install change reg setting, rearm activation - activate using upgrade key.

all the reg change does is allows win8 to think it upgraded a 7 install instead of being a  fresh.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on October 27, 2012, 05:10:13 pm
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?p=14849123#post14849123
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: camy205 on October 27, 2012, 05:26:57 pm
I have curiosity in Windows 8, but no interest. Seems like a major fuck up and I doubt it will be very successful on Desktop computers, it may give the iPad a run for its money in the tablet market but having said that Android will most definitely be more successful than Microsoft.


The other major gripe I have with it is that I can not ever see this OS being used in an office workplace, which is why Windows XP was so successful, Windows 7 has just started to become the norm in offices and the metro theme is very off putting.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on October 27, 2012, 06:34:24 pm
Quote from: camy205;1506710
I have curiosity in Windows 8, but no interest. Seems like a major fuck up and I doubt it will be very successful on Desktop computers, it may give the iPad a run for its money in the tablet market but having said that Android will most definitely be more successful than Microsoft.


The other major gripe I have with it is that I can not ever see this OS being used in an office workplace, which is why Windows XP was so successful, Windows 7 has just started to become the norm in offices and the metro theme is very off putting.

i agreed with everything you say.

howeverthe more i use it the more it grows on you.

I HATED to the point of rage the beta and trial versions of 8.

but i have spent the day navigating it.

and tbh it would work well in an office that only uses several apps all day. simple big tiles...

it's  growing on me but then so does cancer, and TBH windows ME grew on me after a while too and that was AIDS.

Not advocating it but its not as bad as i was expecting.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: henno on October 27, 2012, 09:55:22 pm
Interesting that there is no mention of it being an upgrade on Dick Smith's site.
 
Was thinking about it for daughters laptop as serial was on bottom and got erased and when drive fried couldn't reinstall legit Win7.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on October 27, 2012, 09:58:23 pm
there is no standalone version except for oem versions.... they could be selling oem version but that would be odd

you could buy the upgrade version.... and just use the sections i posted above to unlock it..

at no stage does it ask for your 7 key
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 28, 2012, 05:26:14 am
It looks nice on a big screen.

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]7564[/ATTACH]
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: O-L-W-A-G on October 28, 2012, 06:39:32 am
I've been a "manufacturer" since the RTM came out and prefer the not allowed to call it metro interface over 7's. It is just super sized icons that you would normally have pinned to your taskbar.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: mycoolcar on October 29, 2012, 07:31:38 pm
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1506748
It looks nice on a big screen.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]7563[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]7564[/ATTACH]

Awesome name Michael, its the best name in the world.

Why should I change from W7 to W8?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 29, 2012, 07:47:09 pm
Quote from: mycoolcar;1506893
Awesome name Michael, its the best name in the world.

Why should I change from W7 to W8?

I'm installing it on my HTPC for the apps and fast bootup time.

For my games computer i'll stick with 7.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: O-L-W-A-G on October 29, 2012, 09:35:39 pm
Quote from: mycoolcar;1506893
Awesome name Michael, its the best name in the world.

Why should I change from W7 to W8?
General performance increase, in some games 5-10FPS, multi monitor backgrounds can be set individually and screenshots now save to a PNG. Yes all these things were possible with 7 and some programs running in the background but I prefer features to be native.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Bounty Hunter on October 29, 2012, 10:12:56 pm
Quote from: O-L-W-A-G;1506907
General performance increase, in some games 5-10FPS, multi monitor backgrounds can be set individually and screenshots now save to a PNG. Yes all these things were possible with 7 and some programs running in the background but I prefer features to be native.

I prefer my native features to be turned off.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 29, 2012, 10:44:50 pm
Set up a dual-boot this afternoon with W7 and W8. Finally after a few hours I'm getting the hang of this and discovering ways to do things faster, I actually don't mind it. Kust need a few more apps to come out for relevant programs etc, then I may make the change permanently.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Lvl10 on October 30, 2012, 12:09:50 am
Have just upgraded from 7 ultimate did a clean install had no problems and this is going onto a relatively complex rig ssd boot drive, raid storage drive, crossfire, 3 screens all worked a charm nice to have real multi monitor support without installing drivers. So far the only hitch is the driver for my DAC doesn't work in windows 8 despite their site saying "not built for windows 8 but will work" Starting to get the hang of a few of the differences good looking interface while Im still clumsy with it I will get used to it great with multi monitor metro on one side desktop on the other(s).
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xenolightning on October 30, 2012, 08:00:56 am
TBH, the only thing I like (not actually used it except for the Beta) Is the App Store for Desktop applications.

Provides Inde developers a good platform to release applications to people.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Lvl10 on October 30, 2012, 11:01:19 pm
Starting to think I would hate this if I only had one display for people considering upgrading
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 30, 2012, 11:08:19 pm
I have no issues only running one display. I've gotten used to switching between apps and windows quickly and efficiently and I'm really starting to love 8. Just waiting for more apps to come out for programs I frequently use.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: toofast on October 30, 2012, 11:50:37 pm
I am tempted to try it, because i run 3 screens, and it sounds nice for the multi monitor system.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on October 31, 2012, 10:20:11 am
I have only 1 screen at the moment and find it no issue
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: The Demon Lord on October 31, 2012, 10:24:15 am
I am still not 100% taken with Windows 8, my Main gripe is being forced to use a touchscreen optimized interface on my PC/Server
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 31, 2012, 10:33:14 am
Quote from: The Demon Lord;1507089
I am still not 100% taken with Windows 8, my Main gripe is being forced to use a touchscreen optimized interface on my PC/Server

I find it works great with a keyboard, better then Windows 7. You could probaly do away with the mouse all together (except for games).
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: PrinceTuiTeka on October 31, 2012, 11:10:47 am
keyboard and no mouse? I remember dos being good for that.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on October 31, 2012, 11:15:30 am
Quote from: PrinceTuiTeka;1507093
keyboard and no mouse? I remember dos being good for that.

I hate using a mouse, hurts my wrists. And all previous versions of windows have been heavly dependent on the mouse, it sucks.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on October 31, 2012, 02:18:17 pm
My only real annoyance so far is that there's no start button, the new tile interface in the start menu doesn't bother me but having no fast point and click button is annoying as shit without a third party app
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xenolightning on October 31, 2012, 02:27:55 pm
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1507095
I hate using a mouse, hurts my wrists. And all previous versions of windows have been heavly dependent on the mouse, it sucks.
Fap more, build up the strength
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on October 31, 2012, 02:31:33 pm
Quote from: Codex;1507129
My only real annoyance so far is that there's no start button, the new tile interface in the start menu doesn't bother me but having no fast point and click button is annoying as shit without a third party app

Press the windows key....

Had an issue last nite where my office 2010 pro key wouldn't authenticate.

Had to spend an hour on ms helpline... Was lol because they had to remote in and then couldn't navigate or find anything on windows 8 as they didn't have the training for it yet....
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on October 31, 2012, 02:44:53 pm
Lol you'd let them remote in?

Also yeah I am using the windows key, sometimes I'd rather not though.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on October 31, 2012, 06:12:13 pm
Quote from: Codex;1507133
Lol you'd let them remote in?

Also yeah I am using the windows key, sometimes I'd rather not though.

its a program called LogmeIN .. and its a 3 day old clean install not much they could fuck up.  but they did leave a download manager open when they disconnected, ""VIA a Ethernet cable disconnection""

it had all the different msdn iso files there to DL..

but the key works now, something about the iso they had me DL and install had sp1 and other patches for office in it which coupled with win8 was not letting my office authenticate.

I also installed VS2012... and for some reason instead of being a trial.... it has come up as fully registered against my windows live ID... go figure.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: camy205 on October 31, 2012, 06:37:35 pm
Quote from: Xsannz;1506717
i agreed with everything you say.

howeverthe more i use it the more it grows on you.

I HATED to the point of rage the beta and trial versions of 8.

but i have spent the day navigating it.

and tbh it would work well in an office that only uses several apps all day. simple big tiles...

it's  growing on me but then so does cancer, and TBH windows ME grew on me after a while too and that was AIDS.

Not advocating it but its not as bad as i was expecting.



OMG ME TO

I downloaded the metro theme on my iPhone 4 today. I funking love it (when its used on a phone)
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Speakman on October 31, 2012, 06:38:13 pm
Can anyone confirm if you can navigate through the homescreen tiles with an xbox360 controller without the use of a third party app like Xpadder for mapping keys?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on October 31, 2012, 08:33:27 pm
Quote from: Speakman;1507184
Can anyone confirm if you can navigate through the homescreen tiles with an xbox360 controller without the use of a third party app like Xpadder for mapping keys?

you could with windows 7 as well?

i use a xbox wirless pc adaptor (the proper MS one) and my xbox controller for year 7 was really good fro that ... 8 even better.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: mattnz on November 01, 2012, 06:03:57 pm
http://betanews.com/2012/10/30/microsoft-slips-offers-15-windows-8-pro-promotional-price-to-anyone/
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on November 01, 2012, 06:54:43 pm
Why the hell doesn't metroui use escape to simply go back or escape a menu -_-
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on November 01, 2012, 07:19:07 pm
i dunno beats me it would seem logical but no....
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Speakman on November 02, 2012, 01:45:59 am
Quote from: Xsannz;1507200
you could with windows 7 as well?

i use a xbox wirless pc adaptor (the proper MS one) and my xbox controller for year 7 was really good fro that ... 8 even better.


You sure I could?


Pretty sure I could play games with it, but not navigate anything except Steam Big Screen without installing third party key map apps.
 ( unless of course I was missing another third party program I needed to perform basic windows functions with it)


Ideal Situation:

I can load windows 8, use xbox 360 controller to navigate through the tiles to either Media Portal or other multi-media program for multimedia, or navigate to steam big screen for gaming, no key mapping software involved at all (because it interferes with games)
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on November 02, 2012, 07:23:47 am
Hmmm I could be wrong... Been about 8 months since I last used xbox controller so maybey I had forgotten about any apps.

Although I was sure it was just base windows control panel settings I changed.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Kayne on November 04, 2012, 10:42:29 pm
Installed windows 8 today

It's a piece of shit.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 05, 2012, 05:45:38 am
Quote from: `Kayne;1507665
It's a piece of shit.

Why? What do you dislike about it?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Plasma on November 05, 2012, 10:58:24 am
Installed on Friday and ran StartisBack. Bye bye metro :D

I have one issue with rebooting. The OS is installed correctly for UEFI and the "BIOS" shows Windows boot loader, SSD is partitioned correctly etc. Start up times are lightening fast, but reboots are slow in comparison. The advanced shutdown/restart option menu is also missing the boot to "BIOS" option.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on November 05, 2012, 11:17:15 am
I was missing fences from stardock since the first version is buggy in windows 8 so bought it, only 10 bucks lol so much awesome.

Not bothered by the metroui start menu although will give it time and fall back of startisback if it really is that much of an issue
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 05, 2012, 11:41:59 am
Quote from: Plasma;1507694
Start up times are lightening fast, but reboots are slow in comparison.

That sounds right. A shutdown/startup hibernates the kernel, which allows it to start up much faster. A reboot on the otherhand has to load everything from scratch.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Plasma on November 05, 2012, 04:28:34 pm
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1507701
That sounds right. A shutdown/startup hibernates the kernel, which allows it to start up much faster. A reboot on the otherhand has to load everything from scratch.

My issue is that its slower than Windows 7 rebooting.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on November 05, 2012, 06:48:32 pm
How often do you reboot that warrants concern?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: O-L-W-A-G on November 05, 2012, 07:20:52 pm
Does 30 seconds really matter? It is still better than ME's boot time which I remember being in the 2-3 Minute mark
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Plasma on November 05, 2012, 08:18:29 pm
Quote from: O-L-W-A-G;1507753
Does 30 seconds really matter? It is still better than ME's boot time which I remember being in the 2-3 Minute mark


This is my reboot time in Win7 with the same hardware and now its about 16s with Win 8. I'm just more curious on why there is a difference, you would expect that it would stay about the same figure.

 (http://iforce.co.nz/i/dnjayvyr.kia.jpg)
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Kayne on November 05, 2012, 09:04:44 pm
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1507681
Why? What do you dislike about it?

Can't stand metro, and the idea of having to download some shitty third party program, that looks shit, Just isn't good enough imo ;p
Navigating metro is also annoying as hell, and the fact they're making you intergrate your microsoft account with everything, just feels so apple, it dun sickens me.

And I don't know if this is my new computer doing this, or if it was windows 8, but I transferred l4d2 backup from my dads pc, to my pc, and while doing the transfer, it disconnected me from the internet.

Now on a legit copy of windows 7, My "computer guy" traded me my copy of windows 8 for windows 7 :)
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 06, 2012, 01:00:10 pm
Xbox music pass has a 1 month trial. Worth giving it a shot if you're running windows 8.
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/music/music-pass
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 12, 2012, 10:50:10 am
You'll have to change your computer Region to US if you want to download apps like Netflix in the app store.

You also need to have some kind of DNS/VPN setup like http://www.unotelly.com/unodns/ (US$4 a month) for netflix to work.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Baldesto on November 12, 2012, 02:51:02 pm
i dunno ,  i think im gonna wait for windows 9 ..........
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on November 12, 2012, 03:37:17 pm
As a friend said "I hope 9 is bad too because then I can say seven eight nine
Title: And they are remixing Skrillex
Post by: Tiwaking! on November 12, 2012, 06:28:36 pm
They are currently using Windows 8 in the music show on TV.


I no longer want to live on this planet anymore.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on November 12, 2012, 07:39:24 pm
Hawaii Five-0 has been sponsored by MS for a long time, but now it's beginning to verge on ridiculous.
"HEY, CHECK OUT WINDOWS 8 ON MY TABLET!"
*show 'live-pause's for a sec*
*resume actual finding bad guys*
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: swindle on November 12, 2012, 08:03:03 pm
You would fucking watch Hawaii Five-0?

lol picked you as a smarter person tbh.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on November 12, 2012, 10:53:26 pm
I am not.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 13, 2012, 08:02:25 am
MS are dropping big bucks on product placement and advertising.


Netflix app is awesome though, was watching IT crowd last night.
Title: If you start me up If you start me up I'll never stop
Post by: Tiwaking! on November 13, 2012, 09:05:30 am
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1508562
MS are dropping big bucks on product placement and advertising.

This is the thing I cant understand. I have not seen a advertising push this big since Windows 95.


I may hate on Apple, but at least they are surprisingly unobtrusive with their advertising, and it is mainly their 'core audience' and Apple Geniuses who deserves all the hate anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hubJCf2Nyho&feature=related
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: kilabee on November 13, 2012, 07:08:35 pm
Got a free copy and installed.
Seems OK but then again I try not to bitch about the small things in life if I can help it.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on November 13, 2012, 09:32:31 pm
Lol, head of Windows bails (possibly forced).

Made OS for tablets. PC users (major market) hate it. Not doing so well.
Made surface to run win8. Surface not doing so well.
The words "effective immediately" ring harsh.

http://www.gsmarena.com/steven_sinofsky_head_of_windows_division_leaves_microsoft-news-5073.php

lolololol
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: O-L-W-A-G on November 14, 2012, 08:24:55 am
I'm pretty sure he left because of personality clashes that had been getting worse since he rose to power and was in charge of windows 7. Apparently he didn't want to play nice with other M$ divisions
Title: Arrow.S01E06.HDTV.x264-LOL.[VTV]_xvid.avi
Post by: Tiwaking! on November 16, 2012, 09:43:44 pm
Holy crap. I was just watching the TV series: Arrow and noticed this wee gem on the back of their monitor.
(http://www.getsome.co.nz/attachment.php?attachmentid=7589&stc=1&d=1353055385)
Microsoft must be going absolutely all out with the Windows advertising.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on November 16, 2012, 10:01:08 pm
Lol well the general perception of it is quite bad, It's not as bad as vista was but it's already got a bad name for itself
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on November 17, 2012, 09:49:48 am
Quote from: Tiwaking!;1509110
Holy crap. I was just watching the TV series: Arrow and noticed this wee gem on the back of their monitor.
([url]http://www.getsome.co.nz/attachment.php?attachmentid=7589&stc=1&d=1353055385[/url])
Microsoft must be going absolutely all out with the Windows advertising.

Sometimes I wonder if it's coincidence, like maybe that's just the monitor they happened go get. If it were windows sponsored there'd be full screen shots of it's screen while they used it. Again, like hawaii five-0. This one time in stargate I saw viewsonic monitors. on another planet. but then they hit them with hammers or something, I figured it was just a 'cheap' option to waste.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: mycoolcar on November 17, 2012, 02:36:15 pm
Microsoft have made it further into Arrow, S1E6.

(http://iforce.co.nz/i/z0qtlejz.ddn.jpg) (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=z0qtlejz.ddn.jpg)
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on November 17, 2012, 02:54:36 pm
Yeah there ya go, that's what I'm talk'n 'bout, lol.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on November 22, 2012, 12:02:11 pm
Free media centre packs for ltd time

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/feature-packs
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on November 22, 2012, 12:05:22 pm
Roflol http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/21/1527205/media-center-key-accidentally-gives-pirates-free-windows-8-pro-license
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 22, 2012, 12:08:55 pm
I'm loving how fast Windows 8 starts up.

I'll probably upgrade all my computers for that fact alone.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on November 22, 2012, 01:42:30 pm
Yeah the speed improvements are fantastic, sever 2012 is pretty epic too
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on November 22, 2012, 06:16:51 pm
I thought it started up slower than 7, and the actual speed comes from 'shutdown' actually being hibernate.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on November 22, 2012, 06:52:22 pm
Quote from: Pyromanik;1509683
I thought it started up slower than 7, and the actual speed comes from 'shutdown' actually being hibernate.

yep i'd have to agree with pyro on this one...  startup from cold is slower even on ssd, and shutdown seems to go into s full suspend to disk state.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: BerG on November 22, 2012, 08:51:06 pm
Finding I just always use the 'old desktop' page and do my very best to stay away from that pesky start screen.

So I basically have Windows 7, without the nice start menu, and with annoying things that popup every time my mouse goes to any corner/side of the screen.

Do not like.
Title: Windows Vista? Bahahahahaha!
Post by: Tiwaking! on December 22, 2012, 01:20:22 pm
If we go back to 2006 we find an interesting presentation by Bill Gates

http://au.ign.com/articles/2006/05/22/e3-2006-thanks-for-the-memories
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9. Gates unveils Live Anywhere


 E3 is not usually Bill Gates' thing. But E3 2006 was something of a landmark year for Microsoft as it heads into the second year of its next-generation console, the 360. If seeing the richest man on the planet in person is not a surreal enough moment in itself, his announcement of Live Anywhere is going to change the way we see console and PC games. It may not be the biggest surprise that 360 software and PC software will eventually be compatible on Windows Vista -- this is Microsoft we're talking about -- the idea of playing against your friends-list cross-platform and sending game invites via cellphone is exciting, and Live Anywhere is just a harbinger of the future of gaming. Plus, Gates is a lot taller than I thought he'd be.
-- Jon Miller
Title: Pff Windows
Post by: Tiwaking! on December 23, 2012, 10:52:27 am
This is pretty damning. A long watch, but surprisingly accurate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WTYet-qf1jo
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on December 23, 2012, 11:40:19 am
Quote from: Tiwaking!;1512524
This is pretty damning. A long watch, but surprisingly accurate
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WTYet-qf1jo[/url]


I like what the Nielson chick said [via quote] at the end.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on December 23, 2012, 12:21:16 pm
Good watch, agree with all of it
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on December 23, 2012, 02:46:11 pm
pretty much agree with it all, i dont even use the metro ui anymore
Title: Word of the day: Craplet
Post by: Tiwaking! on January 01, 2013, 10:24:00 am
Quote from: Xsannz;1512537
pretty much agree with it all, i dont even use the metro ui anymore

Learned a new word today
Craplet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundleware#.22Craplets.22)
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"Craplets"

Often new PCs come with pre-installed software which the manufacturer was paid to include but is of dubious value to the purchaser. Such unwanted pre-installed software and advertisements are derogatorily called "craplets" (a portmanteau of crap and applet[2][3]) and crapware. In January 2007, an unnamed executive spokesman for Microsoft expressed concern that the Windows Vista launch might be damaged by poorly designed, uncertified third-party applications installed by vendors — "We call them craplets."

More like "An unamed executive spokesman for Microsoft expressed joy at being able to cut out the middle man and provide the poorly designed applications first party"
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on January 01, 2013, 12:07:53 pm
My mother finally bought a new computer.
Windows 8 is SO UNINTUITIVE that she's gone back to her old computer.
A P4 LAPTOP WITH A BUGGERED SCREEN.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on January 02, 2013, 12:31:14 pm
Windows 8 is pro.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on January 06, 2013, 11:53:17 pm
Came across this when trying to find out where network mapping was in windows 8:
http://xpwasmyidea.blogspot.co.nz/2011/09/features-removed-in-windows-8.html

It's gone :/
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: GRIM on January 07, 2013, 06:56:30 pm
whoever said server 2012 is good.... do you even lift?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on January 07, 2013, 07:55:23 pm
Apart from ui changes it's rock solid, if it bothers you that much run core edition :P
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on January 07, 2013, 09:04:16 pm
Quote from: GRIM;1513765
whoever said server 2012 is good.... do you even lift?

server 2012 is boss just dont install the gui and remote in and use powershell, you are not an admin if you are still using the gui...
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: GRIM on January 07, 2013, 09:24:19 pm
i deployed it, when into management console... to pretty, reverted back to 2008 r2 lol
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on January 07, 2013, 10:53:42 pm
Quote from: Xsannz;1513777
server 2012 is boss just dont install the gui and remote in and use powershell, you are not an admin if you are still using the gui...
Disagree entirely, the gui additions make life much easier when it comes to day to day management.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: GRIM on January 08, 2013, 07:31:47 pm
^ I agree... I use powershell for Azure, Office 365 and server 2008r2 but only when I NEED to if the GUI doesn't have the ability to do what I want
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on January 08, 2013, 08:10:14 pm
Quote from: Codex;1513801
Disagree entirely, the gui additions make life much easier when it comes to day to day management.

you are just bad...  you'd never cut it as a linux admin...  speaking of which i have my rhce exam in 2 months...
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: GRIM on January 08, 2013, 09:15:34 pm
lolz... could tell you were a linux'er
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on January 09, 2013, 12:01:11 am
Can't command prompt from a kernel. GOSH.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on January 09, 2013, 06:16:00 am
Quote from: Xsannz;1513914
you are just bad...  you'd never cut it as a linux admin...  speaking of which i have my rhce exam in 2 months...


Oranges to Apples, you can't really compare the 2 in terms of gui administration vs command line considering how vastly different the products are
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: The Demon Lord on January 09, 2013, 08:12:06 am
Some things in Windows are easier to do in Powershell (though I normally try and avoid powershell in windows) whereas Linux I find that CLI is often the best option anyway.

Different strokes, Different OS
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on January 09, 2013, 08:21:07 am
Codex likes different strokes...  And different folks...
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on January 09, 2013, 12:16:17 pm
Well with my limited use of ubuntu server i've found it faster and easier to use cli, where as in windows it's always seemingly faster to use the gui unless you have created batches or powershell scripts specifically prior.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xsannz on January 09, 2013, 01:02:11 pm
Batches and shoddy cobbled coding are what makes a true admin.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on January 09, 2013, 05:33:25 pm
Windows is specifically developed as a GUI system, with a team of engineers with a large budget and usability reviews, etc.
Whatever GUI tool for adminning that gets pumped out of an open source solution is generally a) just a front end, which can be limiting, b) so nasty to use because everyone has no usability experience and c) a heap of people taking things in different ways tacking shit on in their spare time, which makes progress slow in any case, if if the tool should be surprisingly usable.

Plus CLI interfaces are generally much easier to use with bash than they are with command prompt, which is horrible.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on January 09, 2013, 05:34:45 pm
Windows is specifically developed as a GUI system, with a team of engineers with a large budget and usability reviews, etc.
Whatever GUI tool for adminning that gets pumped out of an open source solution is generally a) just a front end, which can be limiting, b) so nasty to use because everyone has no usability experience and c) a heap of people taking things in different ways tacking shit on in their spare time, which makes progress slow in any case, if if the tool should be surprisingly usable.

Plus CLI interfaces are generally much easier to use with bash than they are with command prompt, which is horrible.
Title: Run Isolated Networks on a physical network? Red Hat anyone?
Post by: Tiwaking! on January 25, 2013, 04:06:58 pm
I was trying to watch an interesting video about the fight between Apple and Google when a video advertisement appeared:

"Wanna run multiple isolated networks on a single physical network?
Bring the agility of cloud computing inside your datacenter, from the only server built from the cloud up
Windows Server 2012
Built from the Cloud Up"

WTF?

WTF does that even mean?
(http://www.getsome.co.nz/attachment.php?attachmentid=7699&stc=1&d=1359083201)
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: The Demon Lord on January 25, 2013, 04:43:13 pm
Quote from: Tiwaking!;1516031
I was trying to watch an interesting video about the fight between Apple and Google when a video advertisement appeared:

"Wanna run multiple isolated networks on a single physical network?
Bring the agility of cloud computing inside your datacenter, from the only server built from the cloud up
Windows Server 2012
Built from the Cloud Up"

WTF?

WTF does that even mean?
([url]http://www.getsome.co.nz/attachment.php?attachmentid=7699&stc=1&d=1359083201[/url])


As the company I work for does cloud services - I can assure you, there are many many features in Server 2012 that are very very nice.

Now if I could get my server without the annoying Metro UI, I would be happy
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on January 26, 2013, 01:42:50 pm
Quote from: The Demon Lord;1516040
As the company I work for does cloud services - I can assure you, there are many many features in Server 2012 that are very very nice.

Now if I could get my server without the annoying Metro UI, I would be happy

ISGL?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Hmmmgood on February 25, 2013, 02:40:25 pm
Well after a couple of months of running a free copy of W8 64bit pro(from dreamspark),my opinion is that its not quite a pile of shit,but its not far off.

My bugs so far,

-Folder permission issues ie cannot paste to certain folders like my music folder.Gives an error "cannot locate target directory"

-Generic USB drivers probably work once out of 3 startups

-Weird mouse issue,when i have certain windows open(like control panel) the mouse cursor will move on its own to the right.

-For the life of me cant figure out how to turn on defender.

-Some kind of DX error on shut down(will only happen if i have watched a movie or something)

Plus there is a couple more that i cant think of right now.

And here i was thinking my first ever legit copy of windows will be plain sailing,after doing mcitp i really should have known better.

GG MS
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on February 25, 2013, 04:51:43 pm
Defender is on by default

If it's asmedia usb 3 drivers there are new ones which aren't h0m0
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Emrico1 on February 25, 2013, 04:53:54 pm
I have been running windows 8 for a couple of weeks and I have to say, for a PC without a touch screen it's utterly awful.

I've added the classic shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) start menu and all the default programs back to windows 7 (instead of those UI void app fucking things) and it's OK.

So basically, stick with Windows 7, whatever you do.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on February 25, 2013, 05:00:19 pm
I have been running windows 8 for a couple of weeks and I have to say, it's great.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on February 25, 2013, 05:34:17 pm
Of course YOU would :P
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Hmmmgood on February 25, 2013, 05:42:05 pm
Quote from: Codex;1518979
Defender is on by default


Not on mine its not,and when i turn it on via cp i get this,

(http://www.iforce.co.nz/i/rtigylsm.t1l.jpg)

Not using any form of AV or anything.

Shit is broke
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Codex on February 25, 2013, 06:02:37 pm
Is yours from a linux iso source? Mines working fine without any fiddling
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Hmmmgood on February 25, 2013, 06:49:58 pm
Na it was an image dl from dreamspark.

I'll do a reinstall on the weekend and see if i have better luck 2nd time round.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: BerG on February 25, 2013, 07:05:57 pm
I have been running windows 8 for a couple of weeks and I have to say, for a PC without a touch screen it's utterly awful.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on February 25, 2013, 07:31:49 pm
I have been running a PC for a couple of weeks without a screen and I have to say, it's utterly awful.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on February 26, 2013, 12:14:50 am
I have been running for a couple of weeks and I have to say, it's utterly awful.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: BerG on May 06, 2013, 05:55:23 pm
Right, I feel I have given Windows 8 enough time to adjust, but I still find it utterly awful.

I am not a fan of that ClassicShell, its budget as.

Downloaded Start8 which is pretty much identical to the Windows 7 start menu. It has settings to allow you to get rid of those fucking rage inducing corner things that you always accidently click on when youre trying to do something else.

I am now very very happy. Follow this guide: http://blog.laptopmag.com/make-windows-8-like-windows-7
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xenolightning on May 06, 2013, 07:14:14 pm
Quote from: BerG;1524864
Right, I feel I have given Windows 8 enough time to adjust, but I still find it utterly awful.

I am not a fan of that ClassicShell, its budget as.

Downloaded Start8 which is pretty much identical to the Windows 7 start menu. It has settings to allow you to get rid of those fucking rage inducing corner things that you always accidently click on when youre trying to do something else.

I am now very very happy. Follow this guide: [url]http://blog.laptopmag.com/make-windows-8-like-windows-7[/url]

Sounds like too much effort, just get OSX.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: swindle on May 06, 2013, 08:07:52 pm
Wild.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: PrinceTuiTeka on May 07, 2013, 10:05:08 am
Quote from: Xenolightning;1524872
Sounds like too much effort, just get OSX.

Or Win7?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on May 07, 2013, 10:14:14 am
Impressed with the Start up time. Waiting for the PC to boot up is a thing of the past.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Benji77 on May 07, 2013, 02:35:05 pm
I've been running it at work for a while now. I like it.

I would move my pc @ home to win8 but I missed out on the $40 upgrade deal.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on May 07, 2013, 02:52:35 pm
Quote from: Benji77;1524918
I've been running it at work for a while now. I like it.

I would move my pc @ home to win8 but I missed out on the $40 upgrade deal.

I got it when it $40, it was great.

Now it's like over $100. I don't understand why they put the price up. No wonder they'll get disappointing sales.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on May 07, 2013, 06:51:53 pm
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1524902
Impressed with the Start up time. Waiting for the PC to boot up is a thing of the past.

Because it doesn't actually start up?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on May 08, 2013, 01:03:04 am
Quote from: Pyromanik;1524937
Because it doesn't actually start up?

This is true, I actually just sit there staring at a blank screen, pretending I'm playing Battlefield 4 and beating all you guys.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: deadmeatwalking on May 09, 2013, 02:52:00 pm
Quote from: Spacemonkey;1524956
This is true, I actually just sit there staring at a blank screen, pretending I'm playing Battlefield 4 and beating all you guys.

then you woke up with a sticky mess in your boxers ?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: frankytanky on May 09, 2013, 03:49:46 pm
All aboard the hater bandwagon

Brought a new samsung laptop recently. I hadn't read anything about windows 8 at all so had no idea wtf was happens when i booted up....
Shit was crazy, bright boxes everywhere, i entered a password nek minit it had all my work setting on it. shit was getting more crazy.... kept flicking between apps  (more like craps) and desktop. It is annoying that every program I installed popped up on the app screen.
Figured out that desktop is way better so spent the next day trying to find a start button. got classic shell, its balls but better than nothing (tried pokki didn't like). I am shit at computer stuff so this is a task for me.
Also, got like a free decade of trend micro titanium installed with it, however it keeps telling me there are multiple antivirussss'ss'ss installed effecting my computer, I have been through it, there is nothing else running. not even defender. so fuck knows what that is all about. what would you guys recommend for an anti funk?
With classic shell installed is there any way of getting back to the "app" screen? Is there any way of completely removing the who app thing? I could just delete all the apps i suppose.

I am scared and alone.....
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Emrico1 on May 09, 2013, 06:10:20 pm
The trick with classic shell is going through the settings to get it working more like windows seven.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: BerG on May 09, 2013, 10:29:08 pm
How about reading my fucking post about 5 up.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/make-windows-8-like-windows-7
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Xenolightning on May 10, 2013, 07:34:47 am
Quote from: BerG;1525027
How about reading my fucking post about 5 up.

[url]http://blog.laptopmag.com/make-windows-8-like-windows-7[/url]

Is 5 up like 7up?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: frankytanky on May 10, 2013, 08:13:58 am
Quote from: BerG;1525027
How about reading my fucking post about 5 up.

[url]http://blog.laptopmag.com/make-windows-8-like-windows-7[/url]


Already did, and am running it like 7 anyways. Not sure of point? :/
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on May 10, 2013, 08:28:26 am
Quote from: Xenolightning;1525035
Is 5 up like 7up?

5up was one of the prototype drinks they developed. Unfortunately it was too fizzy, and the test subjects would float up to the celling and get chopped to bits by the extractor fan.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: oefox on May 10, 2013, 09:32:33 am
I here 3up was similar, but instead of an extractor fan they had a crystal that zapped them all to oblivion, was great fun for all the young employees to watch.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Pyromanik on May 10, 2013, 10:28:38 pm
Wobbly Willard and the fizz pop factory?
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Emrico1 on May 11, 2013, 01:38:05 am
Quote from: BerG;1525027
How about reading my fucking post about 5 up.

How about following a running joke. Derp.
Title: The Windows 8 Thread
Post by: Emrico1 on May 11, 2013, 01:40:39 am
Quote from: BerG;1525027
How about reading my fucking post about 5 up.

[url]http://blog.laptopmag.com/make-windows-8-like-windows-7[/url]


The point being that you can achieve the same result with classic shell... You derp.