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Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 17, 2013, 10:34:32 pm
So there was an anti-homophobia rally scheduled today in the capital of the Republic of Georgia where I am working.
My organisation was sending some observers because there was talk of an anti-gay rally being organised by priests of the church here.
Afew hours before the time of the rally a large group of clergy and followers walked down the main street and stopped right outside our office and informed us that we were enemies of Georgia and our organisation will be destroyed.

About an hour later I walked towards the area where the anti-homophobia people were forming up I saw the biggest mass of police I have ever seen in my life.
They were standing in-front of a crowd of thousands of people standing with priests in their cloaks holding anti-gay signs.
After getting permission from of the rally organisers the police let me and my group pass from the anti-gay section into the anti-homophobia section and then 10 minutes later this happened.....
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbWrHCRA1Zw
Apparently the windows of the bus in the video got smashed and the people inside got hurt.

I ended up having to run and hide inside a mobile phone store as the angry mob tried to attack anyone supporting 'the gays'.
I am back at work now with the mob is still walking around the main streets chanting bigoted shit.

Very depressing.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bounty Hunter on May 17, 2013, 10:49:30 pm
fuck man, glad you're safe.

Stand up to that, but keep safe fella.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 17, 2013, 11:02:09 pm
Christians they are just so peaceful...

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Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 17, 2013, 11:23:18 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/OXDGEP8.jpg)
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pitchey on May 18, 2013, 12:21:29 am
WTF! Osama's alive?!?!?

But seriously, WTF?
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: BerG on May 18, 2013, 12:43:34 am
I wonder if 'Murica will look at this and realise they are no better than a bunch of crazy Osama Bin Laden lookalikes in some terrorist country.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 18, 2013, 01:56:41 am
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* crazy old ladies with 'nettle' who say when they find the gays they will hit them with it and it will cure them

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Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 18, 2013, 02:10:25 am
Quote from: BerG;1525456
I wonder if 'Murica will look at this and realise they are no better than a bunch of crazy Osama Bin Laden lookalikes in some terrorist country.

Yea it's a great rebuttal to the whole "Muslims are inherently violent and Christians aren't"
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 18, 2013, 02:34:39 am
Great write-up...

Quote
A raging mob in Tbilisi chased away a downtown rally designed to commemorate the May 17 International Day against Homophobia. “Kill them! Tear them to pieces!” yelled the agitated crowd as police struggled to evacuate a handful of gay-rights supporters from the Georgian capital's central Freedom Square.

It was a scene of medieval mob violence, as thousands of Georgians -- mostly young men, but also robed priests and women in headscarves -- stormed through a police cordon and went pursuing the activists. “Where are they? Don’t let them leave alive!” screamed frenzied men, as they took over the square, outnumbering and overpowering police troops.

Police barely managed to herd some of the LGBT activists into municipal buses, before angry protesters surrounded the vehicles. The crowd hit, threw stones and followed the buses as they pushed their way out of the square.

The pursuit continued on the side streets. Just outside the square, a mob tried to storm a house, where several gay rights activists had sought refuge. “Drag them out, stomp them to death,” screamed one woman as  she tried to push her way through a group of policemen, who wrestled with the mob at the entrance of the house.

Youngsters swore, beat and threw various objects at police officers, who eventually pulled the activists into a car. A stampede occurred as the mob tried to chase the car down the narrow street, with some falling into ditches.

At the different corner of the downtown, several activists sought asylum in a grocery store and police managed to fight off the mob that tried to break into the shop.

Very few civilians dared to speak against the violence. “Look at yourselves! You call yourselves Christians?” objected one elderly woman in tears, speaking from a balcony. “Go ahead, kill everyone you are told to hate in the name of God and national values.”  

Government officials from both the ruling Georgian Dream and President Mikheil Saakashvili's minority National Movement condemned the violence and blamed each other's policies for it.

“Both groups have a full right to hold peaceful rallies. Violence is unacceptable,” said Justice Minister Tea Tsulukuani.

Appearing on Rustavi2 television, senior National Movement parliamentarian Gigi Tsereteli called the violence "anarchy," and noted that "This is not the state we were building . . ."

On the eve of the clash, the highly revered leader of the Georgian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Ilia II, called on the city government not to allow an LGBT demonstration in Tbilisi.

The patriarch also urged restrained conduct, but gay-rights activists claim that the church fomented the display of violence by speaking out against the rally.

In what some participants described as a voluntary initiative, gay-rights opponents, led by priests, gathered in the morning of May 17 and marched toward Freedom Square with posters like “Stop Promoting Homosexuality in Georgia” and “Homophobia is the Worst Sin.” Parish women held strands of nettle in their hands.

“Nettle has curative properties,” one woman commented to EurasiaNet.org. “A few hits in the right place and it will kick those demented thoughts out of their heads.”

As the rally degenerated into violence, protesters screamed verbal abuse at Georgia’s National Ombudsman Ucha Nanuashvili and a US embassy official, who also showed up at the demonstration.

Brawls broke out in several parts of town and dozens were hospitalized. The tensions that continued for hours steamed off after the church called on the believers to relocate to the city’s main cathedral, Holy Trinity.

Prime Minister Bidzina Ivanishvili earlier had emphasized that sexual minorities have equal rights with other Georgians under the law, adding that "Society will get used to it." So far, it doesn't look like it has.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: BerG on May 18, 2013, 08:58:57 am
Crazy.

I'm counting a lot of people in those photos wearing clothes of mixed fabric. Fucking sinners.

They all need to go find a nice hobby to keep them occupied.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: swindle on May 18, 2013, 10:16:33 am
Fucking get a hobby or a real job or something. What an amazing waste of time and energy

*directed at the homophobes of course*
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pyromanik on May 18, 2013, 10:30:44 am
Orthodox. So Intense.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: PrinceTuiTeka on May 18, 2013, 11:08:50 am
Wow man, some nice images in there. Well, I say nice, but I guess I mean powerful.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Zarkov on May 18, 2013, 03:56:06 pm
Quote from: Bell;1525459
Yea it's a great rebuttal to the whole "Muslims are inherently violent and Christians aren't"


God works in mysterious ways.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Craigor on May 18, 2013, 05:59:34 pm
:hopelessness:

^ The only response I can muster.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: The Demon Lord on May 18, 2013, 07:15:26 pm
I lost my shit at a street preacher/Conman in Manchester City - he was spouting off that Atheism is a False God. Atheism is the belief of no Gods/God doesn't exist.

So I started Heckling him - if I had more time I would have destroyed him in a verbal battle
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pitchey on May 18, 2013, 07:53:40 pm
Or strangled him with your hair?
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: The Demon Lord on May 18, 2013, 07:57:26 pm
Quote from: Pitchey;1525485
Or strangled him with your hair?

Nope - the Religous have a nasty habit of Matyring people.....
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Lias on May 18, 2013, 10:29:37 pm
Pretty much any religiion is batshit crazy and most of them are violent if you ask me.. muslims do not have a monopoly on that shit.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 20, 2013, 09:14:08 pm
Here is me and my group i'm the dude at the front with the camera wrapped around my hand.
My college has a leg that doesn't work so well so we couldn't really run.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gM2ycHm2sQ
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: frankytanky on May 20, 2013, 09:28:54 pm
excuse my ignorance but were you guys just trying to get the fuck out? The buses at the end, were they there to ferry you guys to a safer spot?
I know its an old saying but why can't we all just get along.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 20, 2013, 09:34:17 pm
Yes we were trying to get the fuck out.
And yes those were emergency evacuation buses, the fact that the police were so prepared for an evacuation is good but also interesting since I think they knew that wouldn't be holding back the angry mob for long.
Here is what happened inside one of those buses which I am glad we didn't get on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaRZgJ-bMy0
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: SteddieEddie on May 21, 2013, 01:55:15 pm
Thanks for this thread Bell! Makes me glad to be living here.

Lovely to see men of god behaving so outstandingly.

Puts this in perspective  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8695515/Lesbian-bed-ban-sparks-threats-and-abuse
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: O-L-W-A-G on May 21, 2013, 05:34:58 pm
Both sides are as bad as each other, why can't everyone be like Tyson?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Ai4qeuvbi-0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAi4qeuvbi-0
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=CzSMC5rWvos
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 21, 2013, 05:51:37 pm
Quote from: O-L-W-A-G;1525634
Both sides are as bad as each other

Haha, can you explain that reasoning?
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: The Demon Lord on May 21, 2013, 06:53:30 pm
Quote from: O-L-W-A-G;1525634
Both sides are as bad as each other, why can't everyone be like Tyson?
[url]http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Ai4qeuvbi-0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAi4qeuvbi-0[/url] ([url]http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Ai4qeuvbi-0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAi4qeuvbi-0[/url])
[url]http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=CzSMC5rWvos[/url]


I too would like to know your logic here - Athiests (note this doesn't include people who have replaced a god or gods with a dictator - that is not atheism - that is just another man-made religon) have never persecuted/tortured/killed other people because of their beliefs
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pitchey on May 21, 2013, 07:29:19 pm
Quote from: The Demon Lord;1525637
I too would like to know your logic here - Athiests (note this doesn't include people who have replaced a god or gods with a dictator - that is not atheism - that is just another man-made religon) have never persecuted/tortured/killed other people because of their beliefs

That you're aware of.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 21, 2013, 07:39:55 pm
Yea that's a bold claim.
I'm more interested in how he thinks the groups involved in this incident are as bad as each other.
One group was trying to hold a peaceful demonstration against persecution of homosexuals and the other was, based on quotes from old ladies, priests and young men, trying to kill the people in the first group.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: The Demon Lord on May 21, 2013, 07:43:20 pm
Quote from: Pitchey;1525638
That you're aware of.

Suppose for the sake of your retort - I indulge you - typically any massed killings or persecution over 10 gets reported in most parts of the world.

If you can find me a news article where a group of Athiests have killed or tortured anyone over their beliefs - then please post it.

Meanwhile with Religon we have the following bloosoaked endevours:

The Crusades
The Inquisition
The Pogroms
The Witch Trails
The Holocaust (remembering that the German belts prominently displayed 'Gott Mit Unst' - God is with us, and 60% of the SS who carried out the Holocause were practising Catholics)

Shall I go on?

Even if we assume that Athiests groups have been getting away with Murder En Masse for a long period of time - I doubt they could rack a kill tally that would approach even 1% of 1% of that of the supposedly moral and good Religous organisations.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pitchey on May 21, 2013, 10:03:22 pm
Quote from: The Demon Lord;1525640
Shall I go on?


Hey, knock yourself out if thats what floats yer boat!

The point I'm making is that you're stating that its never happened, how can you prove that? A "lack" of news reports about it is not proof.

Anyhoo: http://www.thelapine.ca/atheist-suicide-bomber-kills-eighteen-agnostics

Although the news source is rather sketchy, what with having rabbits as reporters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xaa8dgwVlLQ
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 21, 2013, 10:19:31 pm
Dude that is most obviously a parody article that implants the two main 'sects' of non-religiousness in place of Sunni and Shia Muslims.
Second one is an annoying rant by a moron but the case he is talking about is a good example.

Lumping all Christians/Muslims etc together as one because of their joint faith means you have to also lump your-self with this atheist tool-bag
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2212800/The-God-hating-killer-Drifter-accused-murdering-vicar-widow-left-note-threatening-Christian-scum.html

The real problem isn't religion it's those that de-humanize people by putting them into groups that they write-off as evil or unworthy, the people involved in the attempted lynching in Georgia last week looked at us as an single entity that needed to be destroyed because they are scared of those who don't follow the same lifestyle as them.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: swindle on May 21, 2013, 11:49:42 pm
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Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pitchey on May 22, 2013, 12:32:31 am
Quote from: Bell;1525645
Dude

Which dude?

Though perhaps you missed my comments about the rabbits.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 22, 2013, 01:14:53 am
I may have :P
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: SteddieEddie on May 22, 2013, 06:14:44 pm
Quote from: The Demon Lord;1525640
Suppose for the sake of your retort - I indulge you - typically any massed killings or persecution over 10 gets reported in most parts of the world.

If you can find me a news article where a group of Athiests have killed or tortured anyone over their beliefs - then please post it.

Meanwhile with Religon we have the following bloosoaked endevours:

The Crusades
The Inquisition
The Pogroms
The Witch Trails
The Holocaust (remembering that the German belts prominently displayed 'Gott Mit Unst' - God is with us, and 60% of the SS who carried out the Holocause were practising Catholics)

Shall I go on?

Even if we assume that Athiests groups have been getting away with Murder En Masse for a long period of time - I doubt they could rack a kill tally that would approach even 1% of 1% of that of the supposedly moral and good Religous organisations.

Not that I am defending religion, god forbid, but people do tend to hide behind that to further their own ideals.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Zarkov on May 22, 2013, 10:27:22 pm
Quote from: Bell;1525639
Yea that's a bold claim.
I'm more interested in how he thinks the groups involved in this incident are as bad as each other.
One group was trying to hold a peaceful demonstration against persecution of homosexuals and the other was, based on quotes from old ladies, priests and young men, trying to kill the people in the first group.


What are you doing there?
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 22, 2013, 10:38:58 pm
I'm a foreign agent trying to ruin their civilization with my gay propaganda apparently.

Other than that I work for Transparency International.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: frankytanky on May 23, 2013, 08:04:45 am
Quote from: Bell;1525694
I'm a foreign agent trying to ruin their civilization with my gay propaganda apparently.

Other than that I work for Transparency International.

Cool, so you make like frodo baggins cloak, wicked.

But seriously some parts of the world are crying revolution revolution, while other parts are crying evolution evolution. (I think Bill Hicks said something along these lines)
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: The Demon Lord on May 23, 2013, 08:43:48 am
Quote from: SteddieEddie;1525678
Not that I am defending religion, god forbid, but people do tend to hide behind that to further their own ideals.

Show me a religon that has never commited Genocide/Hate Crimes/Murder in the name of Faith and I shall concede - the fact remains - if I as an Atheist kill someone - its on me. if I as a religous person kill someone - its in the name of God.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pitchey on May 23, 2013, 10:44:07 am
Quote from: The Demon Lord;1525715
Show me a religon that has never commited Genocide/Hate Crimes/Murder in the name of Faith and I shall concede - the fact remains - if I as an Atheist kill someone - its on me. if I as a religous person kill someone - its in the name of God.

Buddhism?

Also, you may have meant to say something different but "if I as a religous person kill someone - its in the name of God." is erroneous, a person may be religious or have certain beliefs but may still kill but not necessarily in the "name of their god". It could be a crime of passion or due to their mental state.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: deadmeatwalking on May 23, 2013, 11:17:27 am
Starwars is a registered religion is it not ?  how many real people have been killed in the name of starwars?
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pitchey on May 23, 2013, 02:42:21 pm
Won't someone think of the Ewoks!
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Bell on May 23, 2013, 06:58:38 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/22/pope-francis-atheists-can-be-good
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Evil Guy on May 23, 2013, 07:34:43 pm
Quote from: Pitchey;1525721
Buddhism?



nope.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321278/Dalai-Lama-pleads-Buddhist-monks-end-deadly-attacks-Muslims-Burma-Sri-Lanka.html
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pitchey on May 24, 2013, 05:31:08 pm
Freaky deaky!
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: The Demon Lord on May 24, 2013, 06:14:02 pm
Quote from: Evil Guy;1525736
nope.  [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321278/Dalai-Lama-pleads-Buddhist-monks-end-deadly-attacks-Muslims-Burma-Sri-Lanka.html[/url]


Beat me to it.

to clarify when I said that the religious only kill in the name of god - most religions have a rule against killing people on personal grounds - so to be religious and kill, you either have to break your own rules (in which case I find it difficult to see you as a true believer) or do it in the name of god.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pitchey on May 24, 2013, 08:56:07 pm
lol, beat you to it by a whole day! :-P

So, just to troll a bit, if you're religious you're either killing "in the name of your god" or breaking your religions rules by doing said killing.

What are you if your an atheist who kills?
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: frankytanky on May 24, 2013, 09:53:14 pm
Quote from: Pitchey;1525781
lol, beat you to it by a whole day! :-P

So, just to troll a bit, if you're religious you're either killing "in the name of your god" or breaking your religions rules by doing said killing.

What are you if your an atheist who kills?

Killing is killing in the eyes of the law, unless of course you are at war, then it is sanctioned and supposedly ok.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: The Demon Lord on May 27, 2013, 12:21:24 am
Quote from: Pitchey;1525781
lol, beat you to it by a whole day! :-P

So, just to troll a bit, if you're religious you're either killing "in the name of your god" or breaking your religions rules by doing said killing.

What are you if your an atheist who kills?

You are a dick who kills people
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Tandoori on May 27, 2013, 03:23:40 am
Quote from: Pitchey;1525721
Buddhism?

 
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/22/world/asia/buddhism-violence

Terrible acts are committed in the name of pretty much any religion with varying frequency. This isn't to say that religion in itself causes people to do these things, I suspect the reason are a combination of something more primordial and extenuating circumstances like scare resources.
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: deadmeatwalking on May 27, 2013, 07:55:37 am
(http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/139/b080fd11126f4e1785b38bf50137ca96/l.jpg)... a dick that kills people ... seems legit :P
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Pyromanik on May 27, 2013, 05:48:46 pm
Quote from: deadmeatwalking;1525884
... a dick that kills people ... seems legit :P


(http://content6.flixster.com/question/56/39/99/5639992_std.jpg)

I bet Superman blows a load like a shotgun, straight through Lois' back.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1AadzrK324
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1AadzrK324
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: Xsannz on May 27, 2013, 06:01:12 pm
/\ so much win....
Title: Meanwhile in Georgia
Post by: deadmeatwalking on May 28, 2013, 11:51:38 am
a whole new twist to the alien saga ... supermans baby revenge part 2