all those games vonn said are budget games made for crappy computers
What are you talking about man? Try getting Theif 3 to run with dynamic shadows on anything less than a 9800xt over 30fps then make a sensible statement. Secondly SS2 and NOLF 2 are some of the greatest overlooked but respected games ever made, while I mentioned Scrapland because to me it was a breath of fresh air, it wasn't a WW2 shooter or a zombie blast fest. The game reminded me of Spyro on the PSone with it's interesting enviroments, imaginative characters and the games scope, I mean it did a hell of a lot more than GTA with better graphics, flying around a huge futuristic city with hundreds of flying cars minding their own business and looking 10 million times better than GTA and without the gangster rap crap.