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« on: March 19, 2007, 04:15:24 pm »
No it doesnt it shows what looks/probably is a humans foot print in a bit of ground. there is no clearly distinguishable dinosaur footprint anywhere in that picture Ah the beauty of sticking a head in the sand. Right i'll go MIA again.
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« on: March 19, 2007, 04:05:25 pm »
That site clearly identifies a human print within a dinosaur print in the renowned dino plains in the States. Talk about being ignorant, and sticking heads in the sand now eh... And as for personal attacks bro - keep on task already. I personally think its juvenile to attack a person. Stating a belief is fine, identifying evidence is good, presenting a rebuttal to that evidence is great, rebutting the rebuttal is acceptable. Slagging someone off as a facist cos they don't reply instantaniously.... A major reason i've been MIA from here is cos it is getting more personal than topic centred. I don't mind BH and a few others who are remaining focussed, but i can't stand it when people get intensely personal. The beauty of my current role is i have access to a variety of church denominations and a significant proportion of the spectrum of Christian belief. To some that may seem conceited to say i can confidently state the Christian perspective, but I can comfortably say i am in such a unique position as to claim that. That may seem "fascist" to a non-christian, but then again here are the arrticles of faith in Christianity: http://www.creeds.net/ancient/nicene.htmIt clearly reinforces statements already made in the forum, by both myself and Prowess
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« on: March 19, 2007, 03:53:20 pm »
once again im being ignored by religous facist (hannibal) because they know im right :sunnies: Actually i have been reading the 10 pages of posts i missed during my R&R period in BF2142. I love it when people in here claim a minor victory 5 minutes after they reply to your thread. So desperate for gratification :violin:
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« on: March 19, 2007, 03:47:09 pm »
Can I add something else here - I'm kinda getting tired of angry triple posts with no discernable grammar in them. If you have something to say, please present it in such a way that it makes people want to read it.
Not just you Prowess, but this thread is full of examples - Hannibal4Life is one guy off the top of my head. Not Tiwaking though, his were normally nicely presented, even if there was like 40 posts in a row from him  Dude i dunno what your prob is. My gramma is brylint, and i kan spall lyke the bezt ov ewes
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« on: March 19, 2007, 03:43:58 pm »
This thought crossed my mind at one point a while back - if/when Jesus Christ comes back one of two things might happen:
1) He might start claiming to be Jesus Christ, and end up locked in an asylum (like how Bruce Willis is locked up 12 Monkeys because he says he was from the future - in the movie, it was true but they didn't believe him).
2) He might start doing miracles and stuff, which would freak people out and they could kill him OR he might get kidnapped and covered up by the American government, Roswell/X-Files style.
Personally, the safest thing to do would be come back and just start smiting people. That way no-one will argue Or he could come back like he said he would in the way he said he will, and people will be like "damn shud a listened eh bro"
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« on: March 19, 2007, 03:21:26 pm »
Id bash jesus. LOL - is that before or after he turns u into a pillar of stone:violin:
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« on: March 19, 2007, 02:43:39 pm »
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« on: March 09, 2007, 12:58:18 am »
So I'm assuming God spoke to him? Jesus - son of God (part of holy trinity) Apostle - one who has seen God (by one definition)
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« on: March 09, 2007, 12:53:13 am »
Umm...no.
Unless by "God said" you mean "some random wrote" That random btw was Peter (an apostle).
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« on: March 09, 2007, 12:44:55 am »
If that is true, then Mobil's Customer Complaints line is in heaven. For me at least. People call us and ask if they can complain about the official complaints line. LOL
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« on: March 09, 2007, 12:41:09 am »
"the lord is not slow in keeping his promise,as some understand slowness.
he is patient with you,not wanting anyone to perish,but everyone to come
to repentance." 2 peter 3:9
he has been around for awile soon could be a long time. LOL - so true prowess
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« on: March 09, 2007, 12:31:11 am »
proved wrong?
I'll repeat myself here.
The phrase "jesus will return SOON" is from the bible, and its rather well known, and not open to much interpretation. 2000 years is not soon and he hasn't returned. therefore its a lie.
the koran (sp) hasn't been edited either. And I'd be willing to bet the many long dead religions had very few edits. Theres a pattern here, but you can't see it from the inside. Hey BH, in reply to this - Jesus did say he would return. God the father also said that he desires that none would perish. A significant reason Jesus has not returned, as is believed by missionaries world-wide, is because there are still people groupd who have not heard the gospel. I'm not sure if i had time to post this before.
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« on: March 09, 2007, 12:14:06 am »
What do you mean the 'official' Christian position? You mean the 'official' Christian creationist literalist position. Don't group the views of an entire religion with the narrow-minded views of a sub-group.
In my opinion, it's the Christian literalists which give the rest of Christians a bad name. The are many Christians who believe in a much older Earth, and believe in evolution and that science and religion can comfortably co-exist, but then all their good work gets ruined by the backward views of the literalists.
Remember the bible is written by humans, it's not the word of God. And it's meant to be taken metaphorically, like any creation myth. Dude - you clearly are not a Christian. Its evident in what you believe. The bible to be taken metaphorically??? Parts of it are poetic yes, but metaphoric...
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« on: March 09, 2007, 12:10:44 am »
Official Christian position? Who made you the voice of Christendom? Created on the same day? Arrgh!!
Translation sucks, especially when you have a single word that you want to translate into another single word, not a phrase. For example, the Hebrew word 'yom' means 'period of time', not 'day' as it was translated to English in Genesis. Therefore according to Genesis, God created the world in six 'periods of time', not six days. As there doesn't seem to be any scale given to these periods of time, they could have been vast, millions or hundreds of millions of years. This biblical creation was carried out by an eternal God, for whom time means nothing.
I WISH people would stop suggesting they can provide evidence of this, evidence of that, evidence of God. There is no quantifiable and logical evidence, it's all faith.
BTW my wife's been reading some of my posts and has smartly informed me that there is no reason to be using expletives in the forums. She's right of course, but they create a kind of special emphasis in the right places  BUT... pwned by wife. The official position as taken by the several canons i personally know, plus the pastors of all of the key churches here in Christchurch, having of course spokenm with friends from a spread of christian denominations. There are of course varying opinions. The vast majority of people within respectable roles within the church would agree with that.
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:25:08 pm »
potassium argon dating is used to date minerals, not fossils.
heres the first link i found using google, mr science man http://hypertextbook.com/physics/modern/half-life/
maybe you're not as clued up as you think you are, or that you tell people you are anyway. Actually it sates in the first sentence that it is for determining the age of previously living things. But make up whatever else you want too... and FYI are you just searching and pasting or actually reading...
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:22:21 pm »
Vast majority of people would disagree about your statement that a behemoth was a dinosaur.
wiki for starters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behemoth Having read that link - it accually doesn't diagree with me if you read to the end...
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:19:53 pm »
when were poodles created? Pood;es are a sub breed of a dog... dogs on same day as land animals.
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:18:45 pm »
laws predate christianity. And I'm pretty sure you'd have trouble finding a link between illegal parking and a bible. I probably would considering that cars were invneted rather recently my friend. Laws predate Christianity true, yet qwhen did they begin?  The basis of our legal system is actually found in Leviticus in the bible... When you have an open mind one sees this sort of thing..
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:15:29 pm »
Yes SM, you are right. And really as there is no evidence either way you could never calculate the probability of either situation occuring.
One thing i've been realising recently is that a lot of people here tend to use science to compliement their belief that there is no god. Science may discredit a particular denomination of religion, such as christianity, islam, or whatever - but these are just interpretations of the existance of god. And as an interpretation they could be very wrong.
To say that god does not exist simply for this fact is wrong. What you should be saying is that the christian interpretation of god does not exist as it is described in the bible.
To rule out the possibility of "god" based upon the bible is very narrow minded in my opinion. Its also biased to believe that science discredits the bible, when i can infact reinforce it on many occassions.
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:13:09 pm »
its about probability not possibility. you can't say it's not important which god it is either. when you're religious you tend to choose one. that choice can either be right or wrong, but by making that choice the probability of being correct is less, Even if you're right about there being a god, theres a chance that every religion is wrong, or just one is right. they can't all be right. you got more chance of being wrong.
Aethiest 50/50 chance
religious person has nowhere near that chance of being right.
Do you like to gamble, with your soul ? MUahahahHAHAHA
@ SM, Who said you knew how many sides or what markings they had before you made your choice on 1 or 2 ? Yeah interestly enough Blackheart. Only one religion actually claims they are the only way to get to God. That is in fact Christianity when Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one gets to the father except thrrough me." Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet... if a prophet cannot lie (their belief) then there is no point being muslim, cos Jesus said only he could save right... Most other religions have a theory along the "Karma, or Nirvana" lines. The choice is therefore easier, cos if the others are right (not Christianity for instance), then really you lose nothing, whereas if Christianity is the way then its the only way to heaven.
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:05:38 pm »
because religious peoples have never been known to use guns? ROFL, yeah ummm waco texas lol. Real bad example, and fyi there are christian in the defense forces in NZ.
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:04:22 pm »
MUAHAHAH YOU LOSE WANDY!!! YOU LOSE!! *makes L shape with hand and holds it to forehead pointing at Wandy
There may be no clear winner but wandy caved under the pressure to become the clear loser, thank you goodwin. Yeah LOL to that.
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:03:17 pm »
Wrong. My post was small but perfectly formed.
Tiwa, from what i can tell you left the debate about 2 and 1/2 pages ago. :bigglasse
Hey i just looked back a few pages - on page 10 did Hannibal4life really make 10 consecutive posts?!?! And then Tiwa made 6 consecutive posts in reply?!? Awesome!!! :rnr: Cheers man, i always read a post at a time and reply. Theres just so much to say.:bounce:
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« on: February 14, 2007, 07:00:54 pm »
People are drawn to religion because they want spiritual guidance. Religion provides a blueprint on how to live your life, and a solid grounding. I think that's a prefectly resonable thing to want and good luck to those people.
The truth is in the message not the details of whether turning water into wine is actually possible etc. When religion tries to do what science is for ie explain the natural universe - it just gets pwned so bad.
Religion has been getting pwned on a regular basis since Copernicus, Galileo etc. They need a new coach! Given your guys lack of understanding of dating methods i can understand why you don't believe the bible. Basic 5th form chem.... Potassium is soluble. The major dating method other that carbon dating is a method called potassium argon testing. Were there a major flood as descibed in Genesis, this would simply destroy the evolutionary dating practise for well anything. It is amuzing reading your posts about science given they never contact any science above 4th form. I think it niave to accept anything without testing it from a neutral point of view - in fact its like walking into a bank for a home loan and saying "you guys are the guys i want to have my mortgage with - cheerzs." It would be stupid to not look to all the options and then decide, based on evidence. Yet at every turn your arguement has been to attack our credibility for believing the bible, yet you have never presented any credible facts to support your religious evolutionist theories. The science you do mention has inherrent flaws that can easily be spotted, and quite frankly usually are by average people when studying a B Sc. All the best.
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« on: February 14, 2007, 06:50:43 pm »
100% agree. That said, I think religion should be kept seperate from pretty much everything. Yeah i'd agree, but then we'd have no legal system at all... and then we'd all be buggered.
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