The 4 great monothestic religions all believe they are the only way to 'get to god'.
its about probability not possibility. you can't say it's not important which god it is either. when you're religious you tend to choose one. that choice can either be right or wrong, but by making that choice the probability of being correct is less, Even if you're right about there being a god, theres a chance that every religion is wrong, or just one is right. they can't all be right. you got more chance of being wrong.Aethiest 50/50 chancereligious person has nowhere near that chance of being right.Do you like to gamble, with your soul ? MUahahahHAHAHA@ SM, Who said you knew how many sides or what markings they had before you made your choice on 1 or 2 ?
what the four bud i can only think of three
Repetition
... to clarify the official Christian position... they were in fact created on the same day as other land animals... provide more evidence ...
BTW my wife's been reading some of my posts and has smartly informed me that there is no reason to be using expletives in the forums. She's right of course, but they create a kind of special emphasis in the right places BUT... pwned by wife.
Sophism. Ok, sure, slightly outside the same set on the surface. I recommend a History of God, by Karen Armstrong.
Imagine if this was merged with the religion mega-thread, where we have already pwned jay kay and religion many times over.It wouldn't just be a mega-thread, it would be such an amazing thread that we would have to make up a new name, like Oboganama-thread.
No, sorry to clarify the official Christian position to dinosaurs - if its mentioned in the bible then Christian believe it.
also the translation of the link is old king james version and while they did thier best to translate they did not have the knowledge of hebrew and the support of anybody who knew the literature.a more resent translation says "muscles in his belly".lastly it is hard to go past the "tail like a cedar" if you could point out another species that matches this i would love to know about it.
nobody chooses a religion or to be an aethiest by chance ,evidence (good or bad) leads toyour decision there is nothing random about what is the right choice.
But expletives are fucking awesome!
That's not repetition. Completely different. I was talking about religion as a way of living your life. Take christianity: Most christians don't take the bible literally. The 'truth' that they talk about is the message that the bible has to offer eg. "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours arse." - not a truer word said and that's a rule that I live by . This is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, to try and live your life according to principles that you find you agree with.That's most christians (i think). Then you have the fundamentalists who take the bible literally. They take it too far and try and use the bible to explain natural phenomena. That's all they come to the "Religion vs Science" fight armed with. In order to try and explain the world around them, the scientists have looked at the world around them. The fundamentalists have only looked at the bible and they get pwned every time.I don't understand why what i just said above repeats your comment of "belief is less important than faith".
An 'explanation' is different from a 'point'. A clear explanation quite often takes a whole textbook!! A clear 'point' takes less than 3 mins - trust me.
What do you mean the 'official' Christian position? You mean the 'official' Christian creationist literalist position. Don't group the views of an entire religion with the narrow-minded views of a sub-group.In my opinion, it's the Christian literalists which give the rest of Christians a bad name. The are many Christians who believe in a much older Earth, and believe in evolution and that science and religion can comfortably co-exist, but then all their good work gets ruined by the backward views of the literalists.Remember the bible is written by humans, it's not the word of God. And it's meant to be taken metaphorically, like any creation myth.
Simply put: Fundamentalist Christian attitudes have severely damaged the image of Christianity.Hannibal has posted quite abit about Christian Theology, unfortunately: Fundamentalist Christian groups do the same thing, so to an uncaring observer: Hannibal is a Fundamentalist(blatantly not true)
Wait, wait, wait, what are you still posting for?I thought you lost earlier because of Goodwins Law?!
It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized codicil that any such ulterior-motive invocation of Godwin's Law will be unsuccessful. This is sometimes referred to as "Quirk's Exception". "RGB's Restriction of Quirk's Exception", also states: "In cases where the subject of the comparison to Hitler fails to recognize the applicability of Quirk's Exception, Quirk's Exception shall not apply and Godwin's Law shall take effect in its normal manner."
Sophism. Ok, sure, slightly outside the same set on the surface.
actually it's mostly whatever religion you are taught. so if your in the middle east the most likely religion you'll learn is muslim. Parents have alot to do with it.
Official Christian position? Who made you the voice of Christendom? Created on the same day? Arrgh!!Translation sucks, especially when you have a single word that you want to translate into another single word, not a phrase. For example, the Hebrew word 'yom' means 'period of time', not 'day' as it was translated to English in Genesis. Therefore according to Genesis, God created the world in six 'periods of time', not six days. As there doesn't seem to be any scale given to these periods of time, they could have been vast, millions or hundreds of millions of years. This biblical creation was carried out by an eternal God, for whom time means nothing.I WISH people would stop suggesting they can provide evidence of this, evidence of that, evidence of God. There is no quantifiable and logical evidence, it's all faith.BTW my wife's been reading some of my posts and has smartly informed me that there is no reason to be using expletives in the forums. She's right of course, but they create a kind of special emphasis in the right places BUT... pwned by wife.
*cough* LIGHT CONES *cough*Sorry, that was rude. There are definitely 'points' which can take much more than 3 mins to read and even longer to understand. Peter Lynd's utterly fallacious theorie's on time for instance
i like manicheanism, partly cause its got a long and difficult to spell name. partly because of the possibility of truth and partly because the poor bastard got his beans, (wiped out by christians with extreme prejudice)neo manicheanism is even LONGER!!
That guy in the video is such a noob. Nothing he said is new and he made the same mistake that so many others make. Everything he said was based on the assumption that there is no evidence for a god. That in itself is a matter of opinion. An agnostic is one who has that opinion - logic has little to do with it.
well thats just the glass is half full /empty. accepting a possibility when there are 2 options defaults to rejecting the other.ie rejecting that there might be no god, because of the bible.EDIT : Yes I worded it terribly.
You are in fact wrong on this account. I refer your eyes to Job 40:15 onwards.
Yeah interestly enough Blackheart. Only one religion actually claims they are the only way to get to God. That is in fact Christianity when Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one gets to the father except thrrough me."Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet... if a prophet cannot lie (their belief) then there is no point being muslim, cos Jesus said only he could save right...Most other religions have a theory along the "Karma, or Nirvana" lines.The choice is therefore easier, cos if the others are right (not Christianity for instance), then really you lose nothing, whereas if Christianity is the way then its the only way to heaven.
i'm afraid you are deluded if you think that science compliments that which is written in the bible. That which science does compliement christianity upon is but a grain of sand on a beach of condemnation.I know it's hard when someone discredits what you believe in, i mean no offence. I am mearly pointing out the evidence is stacked against christianities explanation of existance.
This is one of the reasons why Im out of this discussion: Any clear point Im going to make is going to take at least 3 minutes to read, and thats just nasty. Forums are for entertainment not lectures!
Read my post again. 'clear' means easily understood.
both judaists and muslims take thier books to be literal so why do christians getto pick and chose what they do and do not like/take literaly.also all provable science does not contardict the bible they do compliment each other.
