Word it anyway you feel best with. The fact of the matter is you have a belief supported by what you consider to be reason, with no scientific evidence to support your reason. If there is scientific evidence (rather than statistical probabilities) that other planets than earth contain life, show me.Belief - confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof
Both require faith. When I was a child I believed in childish things. Every culture has them - Santa Clause, the tooth fairy, honest politicians. Now I am an adult (39) I put away those childish things.
So you seriously think every Christian, or even half have read the bible?I couldn't quote you one line from the Bible, but I am Catholic. I have probably read the whole bible, but not all at once. Be more boring than LOTR.I think there would be a major percentage of people who have not read the whole bible. But then there are some people that have read it more than once, so they make up for us.
but surely we can try?
feel free to ignore me
Kinda thought that was all but over, given the rulings from the courts and all. I haven't been keeping up with such issues of late. I'm not sure the ID folks were looking for "exclusion to the other". I thought they were seeking inclusion, with ID being taught along side the theory of evolution.Me personally, I don't agree with the ID movement. That to me is putting the Lion into the ocean. Science should be kept as science, and religion should be kept as relgion. Both play an important role in society, and a fully functioning free and open society couldn't exist without both.
I notice you won't answer my question -So you define the act of prayer as a sign of "crazies"?
If you believe in a religion without reading the primary text of that religion, the very book that essentially defines that religion... Jesus, I can't even think of an insult good enough.
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God isn't real but if he was i bet he would like toast!
Ah, tofu it shouldn't matter, but when religious goons suppress knowledge because it offends them, it does matter.
God and Religion are irrelevant to science.Why?If God is self-evident in his works, as postulated by Saint Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica's Quinquae Viae(Five Proofs of God), then all science should lead directly to a God. If all scientific achievements and advancements point to a God, then a pre-disposed belief IN a God is irrelevant because you're going to run smack bang into a God in the end. Anything other than a non-disposition when using scientific method is Intellectual Dishonesty
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We are never going to resolve this discussion since it has moved so far from the original point and is now flooded with people who joined on page 20 and read the last 3 posts above theirs, or on page 30 or whatever. I tried to keep an open mind, but all this thread has really done is show me that I might be the only sane person in the world who believes in God. I'm simply over it./out
