Topic: Religion. The evolution, creation and everything in between megathread

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There will come a time when christianity is dead and your God is long forgotten. Mark my words.

It is a very bad theory. It has no supporting evidence except for a book. The evidence has also been scientifically disproven in a number of ways. The evidence also contradicts itself numerous times and contains errors.




believe me i dont think of him as my god, just incase i was too subtle for some people (killer) i am not in anyway religous, i was just arguing with bell for the hell of it

the whole evolution argument was too good to ignore though

Reply #2350 Posted: April 27, 2007, 08:57:41 pm

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Reply #2351 Posted: April 27, 2007, 09:00:35 pm

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I'm suspecting a fair amount of PC swapping going on there .....

Reply #2352 Posted: April 27, 2007, 09:02:37 pm

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hahaha killer, go back and look at his posts especially the ones said after i posted then take note that nick is my flatmate....

lol no shit dipstick, that flat must seethe with stupidity
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I'm suspecting a fair amount of PC swapping going on there .....


i think theyre swapping more than just bedtime storys too :laff:

Reply #2353 Posted: April 27, 2007, 09:21:05 pm


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Why would someone even do something like that?
That flat must be so awesome to live in ... "yeah, its got 3 bedrooms, nice bathroom and for fun in the evenings, we go to an internet forum and pretend to have arguments."

You've proven only one thing: no one here is interested in debating the merits of the threads initial point; posters are only interested in taking the piss out of religion, particularly Christianity, and any Christians who might care enough to try and defend it.

Reply #2354 Posted: April 27, 2007, 09:39:00 pm

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taking theeee piss

duh!

This thread has been rededicated to taking the piss out of religion. Not out of sila nubs.

Reply #2355 Posted: April 27, 2007, 10:05:10 pm

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.

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Reply #2356 Posted: April 27, 2007, 10:08:31 pm

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LOL@religion?


Lol at religion is fine. The point I'm trying to make is that while this discussion may be very one sided, it's still reasonably serious. While what nick said was reasonably amusing, it's also fairly rough on the religious people here. If you contribute in a meaningful way to the argument, feel free to have some fun, otherwise, mosey on back to the bf2 forums.

Reply #2357 Posted: April 27, 2007, 10:13:13 pm

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.

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LOL@religion?

LOL@sila? :sunnies:


this thread was a serious debate until nick came along gg dick

Reply #2358 Posted: April 27, 2007, 10:13:53 pm


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or back onto the alliance server for a raid?!?!?!?

Reply #2359 Posted: April 27, 2007, 10:14:24 pm

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or back onto the alliance server for a raid?!?!?!?


Not til 70. Back OT.

Reply #2360 Posted: April 27, 2007, 10:17:55 pm

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.

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Was it Karl Marx who said religion was the opiate of the masses? or was it Tiwa he seems to be owning every argument in here he might aswell own that quote. I would prefer opium tea to be the opiate of the masses but thanks to our good friend prohibition that wont happen.

Thanks dude!

It was Karl Marx who said that, but Karl Marx was an idiot at best and an incredibly bad and dangerous influence on all world events at worst.
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You've proven only one thing: no one here is interested in debating the merits of the threads initial point; posters are only interested in taking the piss out of religion, particularly Christianity, and any Christians who might care enough to try and defend it.

Yeah it is bringing the quality of this thread down. Im considering jumping sides and helping the Christians.....again.

Reply #2361 Posted: April 27, 2007, 10:19:27 pm
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It was Karl Marx who said that, but Karl Marx was an idiot at best and an incredibly bad and dangerous influence on all world events at worst.


Sif. Just because people are too stupid to engage his ideas properly.

Reply #2362 Posted: April 27, 2007, 10:31:42 pm

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anyone posted the babel fish?

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"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. Q.E.D."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and white is black and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing. While most leading theologians believe this argument to be a load of dingo's kidneys, that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, Well That About Wraps It Up For God.

douglas adams > god and science

Reply #2363 Posted: April 27, 2007, 10:47:43 pm
"We are the majority we arent the tards, the people we pick on are." -Luse_K

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Sif. Just because people are too stupid to engage his ideas properly.

No no you've got it all wrong

No one is stupid enough to engage his ideas properly!

Reply #2364 Posted: April 27, 2007, 11:10:33 pm
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Some interesting quotes from Gary Potter, President of Catholics for Christian Political Action

"when the christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homsexuals. After the Christian Majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil"

So much for forgiveness and charity.

Perhapes the saddest thing I can personally relate to is this example below

The American geologist Kurt Wise is the now director of "Center for Origins Research" - what is really sad is that he is actually qualified, a geology degree from the University of Chicago followed by higher education in geology and paleontology at Harvard under Stephen J Gould, if you have ever studied geology, natural history etc you will know J Gould..anyway Wise was a genuinely smart guy and promising young scientist.

Then shit hit the fan. His very training as a geologist was at end with his upbringing in a fundamentalist Christian religious house. It slowly subverted and weakened his scientific views until one day he could take it no more. He took to the bible with scissors, literally cutting out everything that wouldn't stack up if the scientific world view was correct, at the end of his ruthlessly honest labour left the bible

"try as I might, even with the benefit of the intact margins throughout the pages of Scripture, I found it impossible to pick up the bible without it being rent in two. I had to make a decision between evolution and scripture. Either the scripture was true and evolution was wrong or evolution was true and I had to toss out the Bible...it was there that night I accepted the word of god and rejected all that would ever counter it, including evolution. With that, in great sorrow, I tossed into the fire all my dreams and hopes in science."

And here is my problem with religion. Indoctrinating thousands upon thousands of young, innocent minds and teaching that that unquestioning faith is a virtue. If religion can do that to someone who is a Harvard educated geologist I seriously worry about those of weaker minds and less education.

Reply #2365 Posted: April 28, 2007, 03:16:45 pm

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If i was to go to hell it would probably be for beastiliaty...cos i fucked your girlfriend

squeal piggy


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hahaha killer, go back and look at his posts especially the ones said after i posted then take note that nick is my flatmate....


So your flatmates rooting your girlfriend and you let him :sly:  , I am reporting you both to the SPCA :chuckle:  and I reccommend you go to Church and ask for forgiveness .

Reply #2366 Posted: April 28, 2007, 03:52:13 pm
The answer to this last question will determine whether you are drunk or not. Was Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog ?

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Some interesting quotes from Gary Potter, President of Catholics for Christian Political Action

"when the christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homsexuals. After the Christian Majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil"

Odd. The majority of the prisoners in America would call themselves 'Christian' on a census
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The American geologist Kurt Wise is the now director of "Center for Origins Research"

"try as I might, even with the benefit of the intact margins throughout the pages of Scripture, I found it impossible to pick up the bible without it being rent in two. I had to make a decision between evolution and scripture. Either the scripture was true and evolution was wrong or evolution was true and I had to toss out the Bible...it was there that night I accepted the word of god and rejected all that would ever counter it, including evolution. With that, in great sorrow, I tossed into the fire all my dreams and hopes in science."

So he's rejected everything that he worked so hard through University to learn?

I consider that very good news actually. Its survival of the fittest working as it should: Weeding out the weak and leaving only the strong

Reply #2367 Posted: April 28, 2007, 04:21:38 pm
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your point is lost on me.

because of his religious upbringing he rejected years of some of the highest scientific training available, even though by his own admission none of his religious upbringing could stack up to science.

how is that good?

I find it weak and pathetic.

Reply #2368 Posted: April 28, 2007, 04:33:46 pm

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your point is lost on me.

because of his religious upbringing he rejected years of some of the highest scientific training available, even though by his own admission none of his religious upbringing could stack up to science.

how is that good?

I find it weak and pathetic.

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Natural selection is the evolutionary process by which favorable traits that are heritable become more common in successive generations of a population of reproducing organisms, and unfavorable traits that are heritable become less common.

In this case: His religio-pseudo-scientific theories CANNOT propagate through the scientific community so the world is spared his stupidity. His mental meme's and engram's will not be replicated and thusly he becomes an ideological DEAD-END.

Just because he flip-flops from one viewpoint to another makes no difference upon the fact that Natural Selection works.

Too feel sad about someone or something who brings such a situation down upon themselves is futile. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated

Reply #2369 Posted: April 28, 2007, 06:02:47 pm
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Reply #2370 Posted: April 28, 2007, 08:18:19 pm

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In this case: His religio-pseudo-scientific theories CANNOT propagate through the scientific community so the world is spared his stupidity. His mental meme's and engram's will not be replicated and thusly he becomes an ideological DEAD-END.

Just because he flip-flops from one viewpoint to another makes no difference upon the fact that Natural Selection works.

Too feel sad about someone or something who brings such a situation down upon themselves is futile. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated


That Wikipedia quote just strengthens my support against inheritable diseases. Really why do chicks take a liking to someone who drools over them self and can't talk...

I support survival of the fittest because I am considered a "normal" human :rnr:

But since we're a democracy I can't do shit all to stop people with inheritable diseases reproducing and creating their own small race of people dependant on others to survive.

Honestly, Fuck 'em. Learn to do your own work or die.

Reply #2371 Posted: April 28, 2007, 09:05:42 pm

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That Wikipedia quote just strengthens my support against inheritable diseases. Really why do chicks take a liking to someone who drools over them self and can't talk...

Cletus and Bran-dyne have HOW many kids? Isnt it 15?


Some folk will never eat a skunk, but then again some folk will

Like Cletus, the slack jawed YOKEL!

Some folk will never lose a toe, but then again some folk will

Like Cletus the slack jawed YOKEL!

Reply #2372 Posted: April 28, 2007, 10:16:51 pm
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Reply #2373 Posted: April 28, 2007, 10:20:01 pm

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Reply #2374 Posted: April 28, 2007, 10:34:40 pm
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