Fatal Error: System Shutdown.(In my defence, look at the time-stamps on those posts.)
And this is why the Bible is the most produced book in the world, this is why new churches, sects and faiths are yielded every year.
Another flip flop, that makes 2.
You can't have it both ways, either he existed or he didn't. For example's sake we'll say he did, it doesn't matter what he was, it's how he's perceived that's really important.
You missed the point, her praying, her spiritual rituals, are helping her through her grieving process. She may be 'just imagining', but it doesn't matter, without a 'spiritual world' within ours', this woman could not have done this.Because, clearly such a monologue would be a pointless facade with no meaning, the analogy you used of talking to tombstones it's only pointless if the person speaking cannot yield anything from the monologue.The spiritual world has given this woman, hope and comfort. I put it to you that this is the use of the spiritual world in our Universe. Ipso Facto, the Universe has a use for it.
You know, I'll take Tiwaking's advice, he seems like a smart chap, and stop now.Also, I noticed, DeathOwl you like lists.I like lamp.Edit: So tempted to continue, but I'll settle with a draw.
To me christianity can never promote goodness - It always has a gun to your head - do good or burn - for me true goodness comes from a personal want to make the world a better placeanother question for the christians to ignore - Jesus was a pretty liberal guy - so why are modern churches conservative hate camps?
but churchs DO help lots of people get through tough times in their lives, they are promoting good causes and do good deeds. they also (in general) will help anybody no matter their beleifs.Any organisation can do good or bad no matter what the underlying motivation is. same with people. There are people that think Osama did a bad thing, and there are those that think he did a good thing. But he only did 1 thing (9/11). someone will always take an opposite view.for instance, nazi's we are led to beleive were evil and we are lucky that they were beaten. if they won ww2 however there would be no israel, no middle eastern conflict. no american super power. the world might have become a far better place.if some sick bastard wanted to rape your grandmother but only didn't because he was convinced he would burn in hell, would you care thats the only reason he doesn't attack your grandmother? does it matter? if your grandmother is safe isn't that more important ?
if some sick bastard wanted to rape your grandmother but only didn't because he was convinced he would burn in hell, would you care thats the only reason he doesn't attack your grandmother? does it matter? if your grandmother is safe isn't that more important ?
Hitler may have been incredibly pissed off and nuked the US to the ground...
The Universe wouldn't have a use for a spiritual world because it can't be * Seen * Smelt * Heard * Felt
not likely - nazi germany's nuclear research fell way behind the american manhatten project - they had the theory but not enough physical material - they were bringing the heavy water from norway.
how do you know ppl who are spiritual and believe in god havent heard or felt him?
I think if you actually ever went to some Christian churches, you'd find that most of them weren't like that. The Christian churches I know of are places where anyone is welcome regardless of age or race. Not just my church, but other local churches I've been to preach things like tolerance and preach out of a spirit of helping the communiyt and trying to be warm, welcoming places.
See, you're generalising ALL Christian churches again.I think if you actually ever went to some Christian churches, you'd find that most of them weren't like that. The Christian churches I know of are places where anyone is welcome regardless of age or race. Not just my church, but other local churches I've been to preach things like tolerance and preach out of a spirit of helping the communiyt and trying to be warm, welcoming places.
age/race? - i think you are answering a different question - Jesus was quite left wing - y'all are quite right wing
That comment makes no sense - care to explain?
It makes sense. Turn the hypens into full stops.He is questioning what you're talking about, hence "age/race?" He thinks you're answering another question, so either you have not answered his question in an understandable way, or we have another retarded snake on our hands. He then points out that the majority of Christians are right wing, whilst Jesus was left wing. Which was his point. And I am inclined to agree. From what I've read, the idea of Jesus seems like a pretty sweet, liberal son-of-a-carpenter. However the majority of Church-goers are almost certainly right wing, conservative, assholes. Why?
economics? back when Jesus was around, most of his follows were poor people with limited power in govenment - since the romans were in charge. since they were poor and the working class they would have been more likely to be left wing.now days more of his followers have more power in govenment and are less likely to be poor (well for the western world anyway). so they are more likely to be right wing.
another question for the christians to ignore - Jesus was a pretty liberal guy - so why are modern churches conservative hate camps?
For every Christian who is good at heart and trying to just keep on keeping on, there is one who is judgmental and condescending
