Pyromanik is right ont he ball with his points. We are free to do what we like. People who are so bent on disproving their neighbours religion should check themselves. just think.... the atheists are practising their own religion of not believing.
everyday its i dont believe. You are wrong. I don;t believe. they arent open to anything.
Alot of you are talkign about science. but science is just as much about DISPROVING theoris as it is proving them.
I like to read what people have to say about God not being real. I just shows you guys have brains and want to question everything that is presented to you. And im glad i live in a world which has this kind of thinking.
Im a Christian, and i still research my faith. I ask a question. i big DOOSEY of a question. hehe liek a few weeks ago in church :bounce: but everyone can shed light on it. then when i research his question it matches up for me. It doesnt work for everyone. but it works for me
Not to mention that God puts the answer in my lap later on. then i get slapped int eh face with the "gah jeez.. what was i thinking." its a crazy feelign to experience. And all my atheist freinds find it great. They also respect my views and i respect them. soemtimes they question me and i questiont hem and its really fun.
But the things i seen and felt science can not explain. Miracles and evil i have seen. But i have always seent eh good Triumph over the evil everytime. My father died in the car on the way to the medical centre and he came back to life. Everytime i prayed while he was havign a seizure it stopped instantly. Its not like a time limit thing. IT really did stop. The day my father passed away was teh day i had all my tools up ont he 19th floor. the elevators wasnt working. the lock up was closed. and i had to carry EVERYTHING to the hospital throught he city because my car got towed away. I think if i didnt have that walk i wouldnt have been able to control my self and be strong for me family. WHen i went into the ward i was teh only one Not crying. Except i sort of had a smile on my face because i knew he Excepted teh Lord before he died. Once my family saw me and finalyl realised what i i was thinking they stopped crying too.
I've been so sick once nothign was workign adn the doctors didnt knwo what to do. Prayer restored me to heath. Even if it was
just psycological it still helped me.
We had a massive flood in our workshop recently ebcause soem popel stole the copper pipes and sinks and stuff int eh building. anyways the water was left running and it flooded our whole shop. nearly everythign was touched by water. i lifed up soem speaker drviers and the the bloody things were fileld with water. i was psewing at teh thought the voice coils were rusting away nicely. but after a few weeks of movign everyting out of the way. NOTHING WAS DAMAGED AT ALL!! everythign was absolutley perfect. speakers ok diaphragms ok. cabenet hardware ok amps and the REpairs we were doign for other people were ok too!!!!!! it was insane. the guy at Chemdry who had seen all teh water was schoked when i told him nothignw as damage. and thats what i realised. that has everything to do with God. heheh :bounce: i have a few more testimonies but you guys will get bored:asian:
Evolution. apes turned into humans? ok. Thats fine. but think abotu what happened before teh big bang could start its chain of events? WHat was befoer then? that guys opening post about that theory was interesting. Cant you except that God is another viewpoint as well? i lvoe reading about evolution in New Scientist. ALso about quantum theory, and teh creation of the universe and what might have existed before hand. hehehe yeah yeah ok i admit it... I SUBSCRIBE to new scientist. its the win! i lvoe that mag. but i can safely read teh Bible too. isnt that a bit odd? no. They can both coexist. Science does no way in the least conflict with my belief there was a God. Infacti can see different views inteh bible because of it. If God didnt want allt hese marvelous things to happen ti wouldnt have. And at teh same time who's to say he is real. I beleive he is. If you want to believe in Islam, Hinduism, bhuddism or beign an atheist thats up to you. Good on you for finding a direction in life thats right for you
God which ever way you think about it - even if heis proved to be no existant - Helps belviers get through tough times of hardship with ease. I see to many atheist struggle soemtimes. like they have a gap. and thats where religion comes in. to fill the void.
i think even Albert Einstein believed in God. wait a second what if the God be believed in was different to what i believe in. It doesnt matter. He still believes in a higher power. in which case we should jsut repect his beliefs because we are all different.
The ability to question what we belive and whats presented to us is free will.
Yes. Thats free will! and that guy early on who mentioned all the startving people in africa. How could God let all these people die? How come so many people died when the bomb exploded?
did God make the bomb? No. man did. Did God kill all those people in poverty ridden countries? no. Man did. Man can make the changes happen to feed everyone. Ghandi said soemthing wise. There is enough for everyones need but not for everyones greed. Even an atheist can think. wait... if god was real how could he let that happen. why dont you think. wait God isnt real. for everythign bad thats happened its been Man over and over again. Again~ thats the free will of man.
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here is a funny joke i thoought might be relavant.
There was a Flood. and this guy had to climb ontop of his roof to escape the flood waters. the water is still rising rapidly.
He realises he needs rescuing. "GOD! he prays. Please rescue me! I dont want to die!"
a man in boat comes to his house and says. "JUMP IN MATE! I'll get you to Higher land!"
"No thanks!" The man ont eh roof replies. "God will save me!"
that man keepts tryign but then he gives up because roof-man is to stubbourn.
"God. I knwo you are there. Please save me. I have faith in you."
The waters keep rising and a bigger boat comes around. and people onboard are shouting, "swim to us!!! you'll be safe onboard with us!"
"No thanks!!! Im waitign for God to save me! He will come!"
but those peopl keep tryign to get him onboard and even try gettign himw ith soem rope but no luck. so they leave too.
the flood rises up to the guys neck and he is holding onto the chimney so he doesnt get swept away.
" GOD!! GOD!!!!! Please save ME!"
so i helicopter comes and flys over head. "YOU DONT THERE!! WE ARE SENDING A MAN DOWN TO GET YOU!! STAY WHERE YOU ARE!! "
"NO!!! IM FINE!!! IM OK!! GODS GOING TO SAVE ME!! "
the guy jumps in after roof-man anyways and roof man tries to swim away saying, "no! Gods saving me! "
they have to pull back because they couldnt get him and they were puttign teh rescuer in danger. so they try to come back but by that time the Man has drowned.
In heaven the guy on the roof meets God.
"God..?" the man says.
"
yes my son?"
"hy did you let me die? I was praying and praying. and i kept my faith but you didnt save me! "
"
I sent you Two boats and a helicopter! what more could you want!""
The end hehehe. See just as a joke thing. there still are creations of science int he joke! a pastor told me! heheh good joke i thgouth.
I prety much think Pyromanik's post was the shortest and best answer coem to think of it. but i thoguth i'd throw in my $1.20 for you guys to buy a drink.
