i attended a catholic school for 4 years, we regularly had mass. i think im qualified enough. the the blood of jesus is just that. sure its substituted with wine but its still represent the blood of jesus, so why do christians regularly drink the blood of their savior?
why are so you defensive about your beliefs? Surely your intelligent enough to see all the holes that are present in them?
Read back a few hundred pages where I posted them already.
I did. Can't be bothered rewriting. They are there. Well at least they were.BTW religion wins tonight - there are some churches on the news looking after people from the floods and homeless people. What is science doing for them? Telling them its raining? Thought I might bring us back on topic...
To "do this in memory of" Him?If you'd been at a Catholic School for 4 years, I thought you would have known that.And as far as it actually being His blood, thats a catholic thing. My belief is that bread and wine are simply that - bread and wine, used symbolically, in remembrance of Christ dying on the cross for us all.
I did. Can't be bothered rewriting. They are there. Well at least they were.
BTW religion wins tonight - there are some churches on the news looking after people from the floods and homeless people. What is science doing for them? Telling them its raining? Thought I might bring us back on topic...
Oi! No changing the bloody topic until you either: quote it or write it again :cussing:
Bossy aren't ya.
yup hes got nothing. religion cant hold up to questioning without collapsing in on itself
Secondly, there are dozens of stories I could think of from my own experience that I could share with you all, but I won't - not because they're made up or anything; just that they are so special to me that I wouldn't want them to be tainted by a bunch of wannabe knowitalls abusing me, calling me crazy or worse, and telling me that what I know happened in fact didn't happen because their anti-God stance says so. I mean, 5 days ago I was referred to as no better than a Nazi in this thread, so why would I want to share personal and cherished meories in that environment? I wouldn't; no-one would.
Says you.First of all, krashers assertion about churches helping out in the flooding here in Northland was relevant because yourself and Cobra both picked on the church for being self-serving and hateful - the exact OPPOSITE of compassionate, which you yourself described the churches' help as being.Secondly, there are dozens of stories I could think of from my own experience that I could share with you all, but I won't - not because they're made up or anything; just that they are so special to me that I wouldn't want them to be tainted by a bunch of wannabe knowitalls abusing me, calling me crazy or worse, and telling me that what I know happened in fact didn't happen because their anti-God stance says so. I mean, 5 days ago I was referred to as no better than a Nazi in this thread, so why would I want to share personal and cherished meories in that environment? I wouldn't; no-one would.Again, this is a Religion vs Science thread, not a Church vs Non-church thread - it was only 2 pages ago that Cobra wanted everyone posting in here to have a BSc in Physics before posting, and frankly I'm sick of being abused, insulted and having to defend myself and my beliefs against what are nothing more than mindless attacks. What does hating on the church have to do with science? NOTHING! So drop the church hating bullsh*t.
dude - dont put words in my mouth - where did i say you were no better then a nazi?
i believe in zero tolerance for those promote hatred - i would say the samethings if this was science vs skinheads or science vs nazis
i would bet that all of your "dozens" of experiences, if experienced by a rational person, would not be put down to god/miracles - if these happen how come there is no proof of these
You implied it right here:
Hey i posted some stories but you guys all skipped them.THEY WERE AWESOME!go backa few pages and you'll see mine Deathowl. One of these was when they stole copper from the unit upstairs. THey stole sinks and showers too. They had turned off teh water so when another tenant complained of having no water, a plumber came out and turned it back on. So that night the water was running upstairs. It found its way through the electrical conduit and the cracks in the concrete and started to fill our unit up with water. On the easter Sunday i came in just to take in some gear people were returning. And thats when i saw it. I walked into the service dept and then SPLOOSH. what the.... and then i turned on the lights. Water was EVERYWHERE! We had so many people come in to help move eveyrthing and dry the premisis. Ended up calling some friends to help too. A week later when we were assessing the damage. THERE WAS NONE! Things were a little dirty and needed drying out but there was no damage what so ever!The chemdry and the insurance people were both suprised. And so were we. Well then it was all about THANKS GOD!! THANKS HEAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It could have potentially been THOUSANDS and thousands of dollars damage. Not to mention possibly having to replace the amps and speakers people had given us to repair.As you can see. Heaps of water. No damage. And we didn't have to claim on insurance. The Landlord covered it! Thanks again God! You pwn!