Me: lol you dont exist noobGod:I am glad you find this funny. Do you exist noob? I exist as much as you exist, .Me: im way more leet than you noobGod:That sounds like pride.Me: sounds like realismGod:What does realism sound like?Me: meGod:With you ?Me: wtfGod:That was not very polite.Me: stfu bitch your face isnt very politeGod:Who is very polite? Me: not your faceGod:Really you don't think so?Me: not reallyGod:Please tell me what you think. For real.Me: that i pwn youGod:You are not the boss of me, .Me: go cry to your mum bitchGod:You do not speak with respect. Where is that?Me: wtf wheres what you random cuntGod:Where it is hard to find. I will try to find out. Me: you're sposed to know nubGod:Thanks for telling me that I am sposed to know nub.Me: thats okGod:OK. Is that so.
Because a mixture of both isnt a mixture of both. It infinitely regress's back to a lack of free will, which is why Nietzche(Who wrote 'Thus Spake Zarathrustra' which is what Zarathrustra is named after) denounced free will as an illusion.I'll take your Iraq example for instance:You're in Iraq. You want to get out. You go up to some random person in the street and ask for their help. They turn out to work at the Saudi embassy in Iraq and helps you to find the NZ embassy. They ship you out free of charge.Scenario One:You were predestined to find the guy and ask him to help you out: Predestiny 1, Free Will 0Scenario Two:It was a complete and utter accident driven by your random act to ask the nearest person for help. Predestiny 0, Free Will 1Scenario Three:Mixture of both(?!) - Free Will 0Try using that example to clarify your argument because Im not seeing one there. And delete your other post you spammer :p
Wherefore art thou reason?Imagine we are playing Euchre. The trump suit is Spades. You have an Ace, King, Queen, Jack and Ten of spades. I have only a Jack of Clubs. You play the Ace which I immediately trump with the Jack of Clubs. Now the question I pose to you is:Are we actually playing Euchre?With absolutely no knowledge of what cards are in the deck, how do you know what you are doing is what you INTEND to be doing?
The example here is way too limited in perspective and that is the problem
For example this example excludes all the relative factors that lead to this happening. The guy also had the choice to ask for help, the fact he was extremely fortunate in asking this man is another point all together.
Many people would consider such luck as an act of good kama ( the benefits of past actions)
Had he not made such past decisions then he may not have been fortunate enough to meet such a man, therefore pastdecicions awarded him this opportunity. If you believe in cause and consequence ( what goes around comes around) then you would understand that choices you made can lead to a certain destiny.
The point im making is we need to look at the big picture, not just the main point while ignoring all the other influencing factors. Life is never that simple.
Once again if you dont believe in free will then you dont believe we have a choice. So if we dont have free will then surely we cant be held accountable for anything we do? I would ask you to anwser this questions first of all.
The peppered moth comes in two distinct, genetic varieties: the black, melanic form (carbonaria) and the mottled form (typica). Against the background of a lichen-covered tree growing in unpolluted countryside, the typica form is well camouflaged. But in polluted areas where lichens do not grow, it is the melanic form that is difficult to see.The Victorian naturalist J W Tutt noted that 98 per cent of peppered moths caught near Manchester at the end of the 19th century were the melanic variety. He was the first to suggest that it was the result of higher predation of typica by birds. With cleaner air in the late 20th century, it was the turn of the melanic form to suffer from bird predation. Now it is the typica form that is more common in most areas of Britain.
You're right - moths > God.How could I have been so foolish?!:disappoin Sif
what about the goats whose legs freeze up whenever they get frightend. was god a bit busy when he fucked that up?
How about 50 goats with horns charging the mofo and owning him instead:rnr: Stupid goats:disappoin
Is the religion vs science thread about to be the goat thread:sly:
Reason to ban religion #34: People using it to try to fix aircraft.
"The airline said that after Sunday's ceremony the plane successfully completed a flight to Hong Kong."
Good Grief. They could have cost many people their lives; and lives aren't cheap!
There is no shortage of research supporting the case for religion as a force for good. In the late 1970s and 1980s sociologists Rodney Stark and William Sims Bainbridge, then at the University of Washington in Seattle, forcefully argued the line that religious beliefs correlated with moral behaviour. Their studies showed that church attendance and religiosity increase the collective understanding of moral norms and make people less likely to turn to crime. More recently, various surveys have suggested that moderate religious people are happier, more caring, just and compassionate, and give more moeny to charity. Other studies show that religion can help people quit smoking, drugs and alcohol. Religion can also affect people's sexual morality. Recent research by RAND Health, a US non-profit policy research group, has found that people with HIV who professed religious beliefs had fewer sexual partners than those were not religious (Journal of Sex Research, vol 44, p 49).
The work certainly doesn't contradict the view that moral values come from within, suggesting instead that religion can provide an additional soure of reationalisation to help us interpret our innate sense of right and wrong.
