you know the ones that claim they are not the nutters, you know the ones that go around prasing the lord etc etc (by that i mean to an extreme), Wait lemme start this againYou think of your self as greater, but the funny thing is u are just the oposite of what they are, yet you try to think of your self as a much better person.the funny thing i find is that how most of you go on about how stupid they are to not listen and not understand what you believe, yet you do the same thing... who is the stupid one here i can't really say.... irony in the debate science vs religion is amazing....
But they are allowed to say we're going to hell because we don't believe what they say.
Same as you're allowed to say you're not.Cnvrt02 makes a good point: if there is one thing which has remained fairly constant throughout this thread, it seems like it would be that whats good for non-believers has not been good for believers, and vice versa. I've let it go, because there is no real solution to it, and to get hung up on it ... well, we saw what it did to some of the people earlier in the thread who just rage-quit the whole thing.The people in this thread who genuinely considered the points others were making were very few and far between, and it went both ways. At the end of the day, comments like "where is your god now?!" and all that anti-God stuff is no better or worse than a Christian saying "you're going to hell for that!" They both come from a lack of accepting others' opinions - and unfortunately more posters in the thread were happy to just *force* their opinions, rather than share or discuss rationally. But thats just the nature of the topic I guess.
There is no need for disrespect. Just education. Real education.I've spent months with Christians looking for some shred of truth to your beliefs. Months wasted. There was no wisdom. None. Just mystical beliefs and ignorance.I now liken a Christian to a child who believes in the tooth fairy. Eventually the child needs to grow up, and see the world as it really is. Break the slavers bonds and wake up from the fairy tale. I'm trying to help them grow up.
This is the same "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude that so many of the non-Christians in this thread complain about getting from Christians they know. How ironic.I believe the proper term for what you can't seem to do Ape is 'live and let live'.
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Anyway, I am trying not to read or post in here cos the attitudes piss me off too much, so over and out again. I do find it fascinating that you (ape) want to help all the Christians grow up and that you have done all this reading. If you don't like the faith so much then why can't you just leave it alone? Maybe the reason this thread doesn't die is because the 'scientists' are not 100% convinced they are right so they have to keep convincing themselves by God bashing.Ok, stop it. Bye.
Christianity can't be explained purely by facts, therefore I agree that is it a partially illogical faith, however, there is wisdom, and not always ignorance. Similar to science in many ways actually. Science can be extremely presumptuous and unwise. Science has changed its mind several times also. On fairly big things. I don't think I need to go find examples.
Science has changed its mind several times also. On fairly big things. I don't think I need to go find examples.
Not trying to stir shit or anything but when I hit on that link I couldn't stop laughing it's funny as shit , I mean wtf that site has nothing else except the question and answer ahahahahahahahahaand then I read the disclaimer at the bottom properly and nearly fell off my chair , even if your a christian I hope you can see the funny side of it which you probably wont so I will go back to my cave now .
science is no way like religion. In science we study something and come up with a theory. If at a later date we find some new evidence we can change our theory because we have more facts than we did before.In religions everything remains the same. If new evidence is discovered to prove otherwise it is branded as heresy. Unlike science, religion isnt open to change
In religions everything remains the same. If new evidence is discovered to prove otherwise it is branded as heresy.
It's obviously not a very religious school then. More like the typical Bishop funded school with a fat, bald funny smelling religious principal who's always on a power trip.A muslim at work today told another person that anyone who doesnt believe in his god will be going to hell. Do religious people see those of us with no religion misguided?
but whose to say that science is the right answer. how do we know einstein didnt make all his stuff up. the only way to prove science right or wrong for yourself is by testing and understanding it. the same as religion, to really understand it and to make your own decissions, not based on what other people say, you have atually look into it yourself and know what its really saying.
true but to have a proper judgement you have to know what its about, what they believe and i dont think anybody here who doesnt believe in a god has gone indepth into finding one or atleast try to understand that some people just want to believe in a god. If science keeps changing then how do we know that science about god or how the universe was created wont change in the future, changing everything you believed in. would you still believe that we came from mokeys, or start to believe the new science - monkeys come from us.
true but to have a proper judgement you have to know what its about, what they believe and i dont think anybody here who doesnt believe in a god has gone indepth into finding one or atleast try to understand that some people just want to believe in a god.
If science keeps changing then how do we know that science about god or how the universe was created wont change in the future, changing everything you believed in. would you still believe that we came from mokeys, or start to believe the new science - monkeys come from us.
but whose to say that science is the right answer. how do we know einstein didnt make all his stuff up. the only way to prove science right or wrong for yourself is by testing and understanding it. the same as religion, to really understand it and to make your own decissions, not based on what other people say, you have atually look into it yourself and know what its really saying.[/QUOTe}do some introductory physics then you can see the proofs of Einstein's works - the thing with science is it doesn't need your faith - relativity is there if you believe in it or not - as soon as you stop believing in god, god disappears Quote from: detonator7;576289If science keeps changing then how do we know that science about god or how the universe was created wont change in the future, changing everything you believed in. would you still believe that we came from mokeys, or start to believe the new science - monkeys come from us.If there was some scientific proof for god, im there, the trouble i have with the concept of god is that god hasn't had an impact on the earth since we started recording and analysing things, what happen to that flamboyant god that was always doing magic tricks
