but could you be convinced? - there are simple and natural reasons for your "spiritual experiences" - what we need is what would convince you that they were the result of something else
Fair comment.That said, the kind of explanations that have been given at various times in this thread seem no more convincing than the explanation I already have. If someone could give me specific explanations - "it happens because of this, which is due to that, which then causes that" - then I might listen.I could definitely be convinced - though I will say that I would probably be openly skeptical to begin with, and probably reject the explanation as a first response. But I would definitely consider it later.
You're right - its so hard that his existence is pretty much unanimously agreed upon.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
How do scientists go on about creating technology and scientific advances that might have an impact on how people kill themselves? Both in the cases when scientists actively work to create a weapon or just discover something that in the future is turned into something that kills people.
The 10 commandments and stuff...RULES!!!! OMG OH NO!!!! RLY??? YA RLY??? IMA CHARGIN MY LAZEEEERRRZZ!!!! SHOOP THA WOOOP!!!!
Heres the 1 Commandment of Bell.1. Have empthy for you fellow (wo)man.Before you do anything that could have effect on someone else think to yourself, "if someone was to do this to me would I be happy about it?" and in some grey areas think "Do the benefits to me really justify the cost to the other person, am I being overly selfish?"This covers cases like breaking up with someone if you are unhappy with your relationship you need to do whats right for you, the previous point about not doing anything which would make someone unhappy doesn't work here.So no 10 commandments for me thanks, im living by the "Rule of Bell" (TM)
Sounds a lot like "Do unto others as you would have done to you", which is also tought from the bible.
Yes it is in the bible but it also just plain common sense, the bible didn't invent this type of thinking.And the bible doesn't include my second part of it because sometimes you have to do unto other what you wouldn't want done to you. Nobody likes being dumped.
But maybe its common sense that has been instilled into us from lessons taught from the bible.
Arnifix wins, this is problem some of people, they believe thier religion invented morales which is a load of crap.Especially since Christianity come into exsistence relatively late as far as religion goes.Pagans had morales.Even animals show traits that humans would class as morales.
I'm not religious, I was just arguing because your first post was seemingly writing off the rules in the Bible or the Bible itself as pointless because they were just copying what we already knew to be common sense (ignoring the "I am the only God" ones). Then you stated your "Rule of Bell (TM)" (just quoting, not being pompous ) which is just a long version of another rule stated in the Bible.The rules and morales presented in the Bible are probably taken from what people knew to be common sense but the Bible isn't wrong for repeating them.
