Religion. The evolution, creation and everything in between megathread

[Tiwaking!]

"nah it's a fish, cause it swims in the sea" said the samoan

The comment "Cricket is Rugby because they are both played on a field" instantly wins arguments like this.

To be honest: I wouldnt have bothered arguing evolution with them. I would have agreed with Intelligent Design and then just gone on and on and claimed more and more amazing things until we all drowned in bullshit.

"Unicorns are awesome! Sure they lost their legs, went back to the sea and became Narwhals but boy thank God for that! Unicorns were one of the number one causes of infantcide back in the day, eating all the human and monkey babies. Life was so weird 6000 years ago"

[mish]

Should have asked the Samoan if you could whether or not he thought you could drown a whale.

Na cuz it's a fish eh.....

[UppityDuck]

At least, in general, this thread is not full of kooks like this forum!

[Tiwaking!]

At least, in general, this thread is not full of kooks like this forum!

No. But the world is full of angry, violent christian folk.

Monks fight in Jerusalem's holiest church!

JERUSALEM — Rival monks brawled this Sunday at one of Christianity's holiest sites, and police have detained two clergymen for questioning.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld says fighting erupted Sunday between Armenian and Greek Orthodox monks at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. The church marks the traditional site of Jesus' crucifixion, burial and resurrection.

Police detained one monk from each side.

Rosenfeld says fighting flared over preparations for the annual ceremony held by the Armenians to commemorate the 4th century discovery of the cross believed to have been used to crucify Jesus.

Six Christian sects control the ancient church. They regularly fight over turf and influence, and Israeli police must occasionally intervene.

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[Bell]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2260129385438753065&ei=sSUnSd6QJpjUqAPoxNiVBA&q=Steven+Weinberg&hl=en

Really like the above video, Steven expresses the views of many atheists extremely well.

I especially liked the end of the conversation, starting at 22:35.

I wish I could express my views on religion as clearly as he can.

[Bounty Hunter]

wait...so what they lost the cross?  for 400 years?

so this dude, who can walk on water, who comes back to life, who cures the sick and promotes some new belief....and they lose the cross they buried him on?

unless it was treated (which I doubt) then it would've fallen apart way sooner than 400 years...

for that matter where the fuck was jesus buried? I wanna dig him up and take a carbon test, and DNA while im at it.

[Nyan]

wait...so what they lost the cross?  for 400 years?

so this dude, who can walk on water, who comes back to life, who cures the sick and promotes some new belief....and they lose the cross they buried him on?

unless it was treated (which I doubt) then it would've fallen apart way sooner than 400 years...

for that matter where the fuck was jesus buried? I wanna dig him up and take a carbon test, and DNA while im at it.

He wasn't buried on a Cross, He was crucified on the Cross. He was wrapped in cloth and put in a tomb which had a large stone rolled over the entrance. good luck digging him up, No one knows where his tomb is.

Religion. The evolution, creation and everything in between megathread

[Bell]

Err so that cartoon attempts to use logic to explain why evolution is wrong.
And says one of the logical reasons why it is wrong is that 5 out of 6 of the concepts of evolution havn't been apparently proven yet and then goes onto say that believing in those things is nothing but a leap of faith then goes on to say that faith based Christianity must be the answer.

By using logic we can see that, that argument is retarded.

That cartoon seems to say to me "if science has good evidence about something but hasn't completely proven something yet then it must be wrong and they will never find the answer, so just believe in jesus."

Why not believe in Zeus?

[nick247]

i like that cartoon, it raises the point that there needs to be a high level of fact and strong evidential theory to back up the claims made by groups in society

and that there are many theories out there that are not justified enough. Our standards should be higher for what ideas we accept and dont accept.

This cartoon makes those points very well


....................now lets apply that agreed upon form of thinking to religion...............................

YOU FAIL RELIGION

ORGANISED RELIGION>>>>>>>>>GTFO!

I WIN!

[Bell]

Close the thread its over.

[nick247]

OMG i missed a couple of parts of that cartoon

its even more fucked up than i thought

"science cant explain why atoms stick together (fair call)....

"BUT if we look at the bible we see this is explained because god holds things together"

yes cos thats a much more reasonable theory

"christ was in the world and he created it" ---- john 1-10

WHAT THE FUCK.....john 1-10 is your proof, HOW THE HELL IS THAT BETTER THAN EVEN THE WORST SCIENTIFIC THEORY

FAIL FAIL FAIL

[Goldo]

What the fucking fuck.  This thread is broken.  I click page 193 and it refreshes to 192 and I start reading the same stuff again >_>

[AfroDizzzy]

I'm sorry but that cartoon was fail. It contradicted it's self.

[Goldo]

I agree, I read the first few panels and was like "wtf this shit is gay" and I skipped the post :asian:

Also, that smily is racist.

[Nyan]

I only posted to shit stir.

[UppityDuck]

I thought you only EVER post to shit stir.
I'm glad others commented on that...uh...cartoon. Means I don't have to.

[UppityDuck]

How many has god killed?

Found this website the other day. Thought it was quite interesting. Certainly food for thought, especially when combined with the other links on that page.

[bucket]

Proverbs
"Rejoice with the wife of thy youth.... Let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love." 5:18-19

[Nyan]

I want to ask you. How do you know god doesnt exist and can science prove that he doesn't? Edison said "humans only know a billionth of a percent of all knowledge." If thats all we know how can we be certain that god doesn't exist.

[Bell]

You can't be certain that no god like thing doesn't exist.
But I can be fairly certain organised religions don't have the answer.

Just because you can't prove something doesn't exist doesn't mean it does.
See flying spagetti monster

[nick247]

I want to ask you. How do you know god doesnt exist and can science prove that he doesn't? Edison said "humans only know a billionth of a percent of all knowledge." If thats all we know how can we be certain that god doesn't exist.

"there is a chance god exists therefore he exists", you can see the problem with the argument when i put it like that

tbh that argument is irrelevent here as we dont really have anyone steping up and boldly claiming that there is no chance god can exist.

instead we have people claiming its possible but it might not be as likely as many believe

[cobra]

I want to ask you. How do you know god doesnt exist and can science prove that he doesn't? Edison said "humans only know a billionth of a percent of all knowledge." If thats all we know how can we be certain that god doesn't exist.

you cant prove that things dont exist - but you can look for evidence things would leave if they did exist - god does not provide any evidence - miracles dont happen on video tape and prayers dont work if you measure the results

[KiLL3r]

I want to ask you. How do you know god doesnt exist and can science prove that he doesn't? Edison said "humans only know a billionth of a percent of all knowledge." If thats all we know how can we be certain that god doesn't exist.

which god?

it is possible that there is a uber powerful being somewhere in our universe but that still doesnt make it a god.

as for earth gods, none of them are real and there has never been any evidence of them that isnt hearsay from thousands of years ago.

[nick247]

or there is a god but all he can do is create a situation that allowed the big bang/some equivalent to occur

god might be powerful only in terms of creating and not actually have any power over what is created

gods existence might not even mean anything for us

[AfroDizzzy]

Bible  223 up, 153 down
 Old Testament: God creates the universe and he sees it and it's serious business, but then Satan pretends to be a snake and trolls Eve, telling her " Apple or GTFO"(cuz she was already showing tits). She chooses the former and then her and her fuck buddy Adam get b& from Eden for being trollbait. Then a lot of serious fucking incest occurs and we get the human race (which explains a lot, really).

Then later, God gets uber pissed about Pharaoh Hitler pwning the jews, so he gives Moses some cheat codes for the universe. Moses stages a mass slave runaway and opens up the sea so the Jews can run through, closing it behind him and drowning the ancient Nazis; God Lol'd.

Some other less important shit happens, mostly composed of a bunch of faggots writing emo poetry about god for him to fap to.

New Testament: God finds Mary sleeping and just sticks the tip in and drops his load. Nine months later Jesus is born. For his 13th birthday God gave Jesus more cheat codes than he gave Moses, plus the rcon password for life, and some CP.

Later, Jesus became a hard core ska punk and trolled the old school jews hard. They got super pissed and permabanned him with a cross and some nine inch nails. They forgot he had god mode turned on though, so he waited 3 days and hit vid_restart on the rcon panel, came back into life's server, and laughed at the Jews.

After that, 3 more guys tell the same story, then this faggot Paul wrote an assload of shit about sex being evil and a bunch of other stuff that Jesus never fucking said but everybody listened to Paul anyway because they're stupid.

THE END
*I just stole this from a friend and never edited it*
Clearly the interwebs pwns all.


And where the hell is twiking!?!?!? This thread is dead ;/