Religion. The evolution, creation and everything in between megathread

[Retardobot]

Our neighbours got broken into and ripped off yesterday.

Why is worthy of this thread?

The neighbours where at church.

[Bell]

Still don't see why that is relevant?

[Retardobot]

Well then it fits nicely with 80% of the other posts in this thread.

[Bell]

Well thanks for you input I guess.

[Retardobot]

Hey, don't mention it, Bell.

[Dr Woomanchu]

Because Bell, they were off spending some of their life talking to their god(s) and telling them how awesome and worthy of praise they were, and these gods didn't even bother making sure they didn't get burgled. Pretty snobby gods obviously

[Bell]

God works in mysterious ways, It's all part of his plan.

[Dr Woomanchu]

which god? whichever one it is, his/her/its plan sucks.

[Bell]

Lord Tom Cruise

[Ngati_Grim]

Rugby as our national religion:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/lifestyle/3717311/God-bless-rugby

I'm interested in the claim "Rugby is New Zealand's religion" because it opens possibilities for considering what we, in this secular country, might view as the issues of religion. It seems we want to keep religion where we can understand and control it. There is, it seems, "real religion" and "false religion". To call rugby "a religion" upsets the pious, for they seemingly know what religion is. That is, what they have and like. Conversely, those who don't like "religion" seem to know what constitutes the religion they don't like. Yet, as someone who spends life thinking, talking, writing and arguing about religion, it is not so clear as many may wish.

The claim that rugby is New Zealand's religion recognises that here is something that acts as a religare - that binds us together. Of courses things that "bind us" can also separate us from those of other religions and of no beliefs. But we also need to remember that "religion" arises over 200 years ago as what you may have when you no longer want to be "Christian".

[StankyChicken]

Why do people even bother discussing topics such as these, we will NEVER know if God actually exists and we will never know the truth behind everything that is life. The real and most important meaning to life is to live it as best you can, because you only live your life once. Why waist it fighting, killing, hurting Etc. The bible was put in place so people have something to believe in, if it were not there the whole world would be in chaos. Imagine if God was never "Made" anything even the bible wasn’t created, what would we believe in then? How would the world cope with nothing, knowing that when you die there is nothing to look forward to? That is entirely why the bible was created and in its teaching tells you the most common right and wrongs known to man.

[Retardobot]

I think you're on to something there, StankyChicken.

You should alert the worlds scientists and researchers and let them know that there is no point because you have the answer.

You know, save them a bit of time and all.

[StankyChicken]

I'm here to voice my opion, Not get into a bitch fight with you.

[Ngati_Grim]

. Imagine if God was never "Made" anything even the bible wasn’t created, what would we believe in then? .

Maybe rational thought and fact rather than fairy tales and metaphors (at a push?).

Atheists and fence-sitting agnostics seem to do quite well with 'nothing' to believe in.

[Retardobot]

I'm here to voice my opion, Not get into a bitch fight with you.

Yeah well you posted in the wrong thread.

It is a discussion topic, not a 'voice my opinion' topic.

Say something in this thread and expect some sort of rebuttal/response whether you like it or not.

And you need to learn how to voice your opinion effectively, because that little spurt you posted sounded nothing like an opinion, it sounded like you were telling all of us to shut up because everything you just said is law.

[Bell]

Why do people even bother discussing topics such as these

Imagine if God was never "Made" anything even the bible wasn’t created, what would we believe in then? How would the world cope with nothing, knowing that when you die there is nothing to look forward to? That is entirely why the bible was created and in its teaching tells you the most common right and wrongs known to man.

There are many posts in this thread discussing the question you just asked, but then again there is no point even discussing this topic right because you already have the answer?

Anyways go post a twitter message or write on a bathroom wall if you want to voice your opinion but not defend it, a forum is the wrong place for you.

[StankyChicken]

Why do people even bother discussing topics such as these

Imagine if God was never "Made" anything even the bible wasn’t created, what would we believe in then? How would the world cope with nothing, knowing that when you die there is nothing to look forward to? That is entirely why the bible was created and in its teaching tells you the most common right and wrongs known to man.

There are many posts in this thread discussing the question you just asked, but then again there is no point even discussing this topic right because you already have the answer?

Anyways go post a twitter message or write on a bathroom wall if you want to voice your opinion but not defend it, a forum is the wrong place for you.

I totally agree with you and I’m sorry for the way I responded to Retardo Bots post, but I have seen many other users’ state their opinion on the topic, to discuss you must have an opinion on whatever the topic is. And no, I’m not saying my way or gtfo, I was just stating my opinion on religion. I never once said listen to me and follow my ways. But I don’t expect someone to come along and say. “You’re a douche and know nothing” Freedom of speech is all I can say.

[Bell]

I still don't understand where you are coming from, you came in here to tell us there is no point discussing religion and then proceed to give your stance on the bible which in itself invites discussion.

As far as Freedom of speech goes, it gives you the freedom to say what you said but it also gives Retardo the right to say you are a douche and know nothing (But I don't see where he said that)
Freedom of speech does not give you the right to have your speech respected, only the right to say it.

Anyways if you want some answers/opinion to the question you asked about the world without the bible i'm sure you can get plenty here.

[cobra]

.... we will NEVER know if God actually exists......

we would know if there was a god of any consequence

Imagine if God was never "Made" anything

this is easy to imagine, it is identical in every way to the universe we live in, coincidence?

what would we believe in then? How would the world cope with nothing, knowing that when you die there is nothing to look forward to?

it is ok, thousands of atheists seem to live ok - better accepting the truth over religious lies

[Zarkov]

Better than living in Catholic heaven anyway.

[Ngati_Grim]

An Orphanage?

[BerG]

what would we believe in then? How would the world cope with nothing, knowing that when you die there is nothing to look forward to?

It's great.

I don't have to thank anyone for the food I eat.

I don't have to spend valuable TV watching time praying to imaginary friends.

I don't get offended and go to war when someone challenges my beliefs.



And I love sleeping, so am looking forward to the day I die. Eternal deep sleep sounds great.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

I want to be made into a cyborg when I'm about to die.

[Bell]

That would make you Cyborg Jesus

[Zarkov]

I want to be made into a cyborg when I'm about to die.

That's not feasible at the moment.

How about we cut off your head and put it in a jar of vinegar?