When science looks inside our body it finds much activity - activity that is designed to keep us alive. Most of this occurs autonomously. When science looks to the sky's there is a remarkable similarity to that which is internal. If you take the smallest object we can measure - an atomic nucleus, you find a proton/neutron core with electrons circling it. When you look into the heavens you see planets orbiting the sun.There is little difference - i postulate that we are just all part of the cosmos, the universe is a giant body, living in a giant world where it is part of an even greater giant body. Think of it like those Russian Dolls.
That proves the existence of an afterlife - just not ours. We are pre-programmed for all sorts of actions, show me the difference between highways carrying carloads of people and the bloodvessels in the body.
In which case, we are all being controlled by a giant brain, in much the same way that our brains control our functions. Most of our life occurs automatically, cells are born, live and die but the body lives on - until it reaches a point at which it's usefulness is complete and it dies.Every thought, action, emotion, reaction is preprogrammed into you. You will only act in the manner that best serves the greater body. There is no other way you can act. If someone is murdered, who's to say it isn't a cancer cell being eradicated? Who's to say that it isn't the cancer cell doing the murder? There you have it - our purpose is to "serve" the universe, to keep it alive. It doesn't matter whether we live or die the universe as we know it will live on. There is an afterlife, the universe's. It's been around a long time more than any of us, and it will continue to be so long after our deaths. Go forth little uni-drones, go forth and make the universe whole.
A question to all the christians, why dont you all die? if there is a paradise with seven virgins, or whatever cash prize you get when you die, why dont you just end it now? (may sound like i am taking the piss, but i really want to know)Just because there is no high plan for us doesn't mean there is no meaning in life - I like moonlight walks on the beach and candle light dinners - there are enough things i enjoy to make sure i keep on living - If the only reason you religious people live is because of god, and not because you love living, then you live miserable lives
Can something exist when I believe it and not exist when I do not believe it?
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If you take the smallest object we can measure - an atomic nucleus, you find a proton/neutron core with electrons circling it. When you look into the heavens you see planets orbiting the sun.
LoL!of course they don't.
Actually it doesn't really matter. What matters is that when you look inside the body you see similar systems to when you look outside. In this way you can see the connectivity of the universe. Therefore it doesn't matter if it's exactly the same - to us it's near enough for our reference point. The principles by which we are here remain as the constant. As long as you see it in this manner you have an instant answer to the meaning of life. One that satisfies science and religion. So really to answer the original question put forward by this thread - neither. It's a draw between science and religion.
They work in unison to achieve a goal. They are co-reliant, if one part of the system fails then the entire system may fail...........Humans do not have this purpose.
Uh huh.
Religion can be explained by Neo-Darwinism, it is merely a by-product of a desirable trait that once served a purpose.
Darwinism can be explained by religion as a by-product of intelligent design.The argument will go round in circles for an eternity. One thing we can all be sure of, if religion is right, we'll know when we die. If it is wrong, we will never know.
If you don't believe it, you are still postulating it's existence, therefore you are conceiving that it might exist and as a result it does even if only as a result of your musing if not in "reality".
There is a difference between there being an overarching meaning and the meaning that we bestow upon on own lives.
Atom = interaction of smaller individual molecules.Organic Molecules = interaction of smaller individual atoms.Cell = interaction of smaller individual organic molecules.Brain = interaction of smaller individual cells.Society = interaction of smaller individual brains.I see a pattern there.
This means humans have no more cosmic significance than the simplist form of near life - a lowly virus. We have the exact same purpose.
do you understand?
no it can't.just no.think about what your saying.
This is why science and religion cant co-exist peacefully. The whole point of science its to further the goals of humanity, in other words: To become God! God cant coexist with other gods and the very idea that a creation would advance to the level of creator is incredibly scary(not that God can be scared of course). This means science is a direct threat to religion, which is why religous leaders are frightened of the ideas of science.
fuck this thread is long....but not as long as lllllooooooooooonnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggg cat
Nothing is that long.
thanks for quoting me Tiwaking
NOTHING!
