or if you go faster than light things go a bit wackky
This is a pointless argument you guys are having, which is why I've stayed out of it.You can't possibly expect that the Bible would be a cut-and-dry, black-and-white account of exactly what God wants to say, do you? Keep in mind that it is considered divinely inspired, not divinely written; its not a dictation - God didn't sit the writers of the Bible down with a typewriter each then say "Ok, type this ..." - God "spoke" to each of the writers and they wrote what they thought God was trying to say.As for attacking literary devices as though they were meant to be taken literally (like the "four corners" BS which obviously refers to the 4 directions - North, South, East, West - in the Bible, as it does in every other book, article or scrap of paper on which it is scrawled), thats just petty guys - and that goes for Revelations as well; as DaCollector said, there are very few people who could say they understand the meaning of that book, in the context of faith - I know of, officially, none. The Bible is open to interpretation and is considered by Christians (and many others) to be as relevant now as it ever was.
Degree in physics > what you think.
You will find that most of the pro-science people dont take the bible literally as it is obviously myths/legends - what they have a problem with is christians quoting parts of the bible as literal truth when promoting their hate campains (when they are trying to stop homosexuals or prostitutes from being treated like humans) and then claiming other parts are not literal truth when it doesn't suit them
You very obviously didn't read what I said, you arrogant prick.Fail.
the book of revelations is the worst book of all. ask most christians and they'll tell you global warming and everything thats happened recently was in revelations. 9/11 etcIts so badly written you can apply almost any disaster to its writings if your gullible enough
You will find that most of the pro-science people dont take the bible literally as it is obviously myths/legends - what they have a problem with is christians quoting parts of the bible as literal truth when promoting their hate campains (when they are trying to stop homosexuals or prostitutes from being treated like humans) and then claiming other parts are not literal truth when it doesn't suit them.
Hate campaigns. Are you that blind - or that gullible. The media has a lot to answer for. If arguments have to be based on fact/evidence - and that is probably a good intention - what evidence do you have that it is hate that motivates these Christians to discourage things like homosexuality and prostitution? It seems that you are the one that hates. Not just you but several others seem to hate Christianity and Christians. That I object to. You seem to think that you are better because of your beliefs. Do you hear any Christians here rattling off abuse constantly at all of the people that don't identify themselves as Christians? Go on, find all the abusive comments now that you have ever heard a Christian say and prove me wrong. Miss the point. Again.I can't stand the hypocracy in this thread. What is so threatening about the Christian faith that it provokes such responses from people.
how are campaigns to stop people being treated with the same human rights as everyone else anything other than hate campaigns? - calling me blind? are you sure that years of brain washing by the church have made you blind to these hate missionsI dont hate christians - but i hate the promotion of hatred and ignorance - someone posts a link to a man working to understand the universe better and a christian disrespects his work -only because the more light science shines on the world, the fewer shadows left for god to hid inthe trouble with modern christianity is that it is 100-200 years past it's used by date - but it has been successful for a few thousand years because of quite strong memes - it will take a while for evolution to wipe it outcan you explain the hypocrisy (hypocracy?) in the thread? - be careful of using that word in this debateand for abusive posts from christians - you implied that if i became christian, then i would become a pedophile - i take offense that you think i might become a christian, and the post above calling me a prick?
All of which only goes further to show your ignorance.I don't necessarily think you would become a Christian and that is not my intention of saying you should go to a church sometime. What I am trying to say - and what I believe krasher is trying to say - is that your comments are offensive and ill-informed; if you were ever to actually give a Christian church your time, you would find that are not involved in a hate campaign, but merely trying to do what they feel is best based on their beliefs - EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT THE LABOUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING.And you are an arrogant prick - instead of reading my post and replying based on its own merit, you instead chose to ignore it and respond based on what YOU had already said. That was an arrogant move, and you came across like a prick, thus you are an arrogant prick.
my girlfriends sister goes to church - for both the bills trying to give homosexuals and prostitutes basic human rights her church had a petition to try and stop them - to me that is part of a hate campain
And you can't honestly think that legalising prostituion was a healthy move for this country?
dude - i dont care that you called me an arrogant prick - you are obviously filled with a lot of anger and hatred - krasher was just saying that you christians dont resort to name calling - just pointing out that you pick insults before debating points
fucken a legalising it was good.
Flea has showed an incredible amount of patience in his responses considering the abuse that has been demonstrated towards Christians. I admire that I wish I was that patient. I wasn't saying that Christians don't resort to name calling, I was pointing out that....never mind, you are obviously not listening. Just keep it a discussion and quit with the abuse.
lol - I don't always agree with what you say, but it usually makes more sense than that!
One of my friends is a prostitute - why should she have no rights because you personally have christianity induced issues about sex? I see trying to stop laws giving her freedoms that you would demand as very hateful
For too long this government has been passing bills and pandering to the whim of a minority at the expense of the family unit. If parents were taking responsibility for their children, if the family unit was cherished more and if people sought help instead of going it alone, do you really think we would be in the state we are? Yet all of these things are welcomed under this Labour/Greens government.
how much does she charge and does she have any STD's?
to be honest. If everyone lived by the ideals Christianity stands for would teh world be such a bad place?
ffs, they arnt christian ideals. christians just stole general commen sense out it in a book and said they created it.im guessing before the ten commandments everyone just killed anyone whenever they liked with no regard for anything. of course not so stop with the bullshit
