...... Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein? If these two highly acclaimed scientists think there is a very high likeliness of a 'Creator', what makes you think you possess the knowledge that it is very unlikely?
Cobra, I will not bother responding to your post for some of the above reasons, you're just repeating the same crap over and over and not offering any new insights into why you believe what you believe.
How pathetic - more like you're afraid to answer to any of my arguments because you know you are wrong and not willing to admit it.
this is not true - Hawkings is an athiest
Now, lest anyone be confused, let me state that Hawking strenuously denies charges that he is an atheist. When he is accused of that he really gets angry and says that such assertions are not true at all. He is an agnostic or deist or something more along those lines. He's certainly not an atheist and not even very sympathetic to atheism.
There is no afterlife, just death' You know this for a fact do you,
and lol at comparing us to animals, truly pathetic.
Good for you. Have fun living your life as an unspiritual, biological sack-of-meat-and-bones.
Uuh, no... he's agnostic, he doesn't believe in the Christian God and it's one of the reasons he divorced from his religious wife.source: Henry F. Schaefer III - Stephen Hawking, the Big Bang, and Godthe simple fact is many, many scientists believe there is a good possibility of a Creator of somesuch that created the universe. My question is what knowledge does Philo-sofa have that all these scientists apparently don't have that makes him think it is very unlikely?
good possibility? that is just lies, you just made that upthe term i heard was Einsteinian atheist - but still you we claiming a few posts ago that they believed in a "strong possibility" in god, can you back this up
you're a Genus Homoso where did we and the animals come from? Cells? Where did those cells come from? Why did they appear on Earth? Where did the universe come from? Why did the universe appear? What caused it? What is time, when did it begin? How and why? Why is there life? Why do we have consciousness?
so where did god come from?
Yes, I could if I could be bothered trawling through his theories ect. again to get some quotes but I can't be bothered going to the effort of trying to prove a point to you close-minded atheists when it seems it ultimately pointless and a waste of my time, go and do the research yourself if you feel compelled to
the simple fact is many, many scientists believe there is a good possibility of a Creator of somesuch that created the universe. My question is what knowledge does Philo-sofa have that all these scientists apparently don't have that makes him think it is very unlikely?
only reason I started posting here was because i'm banned from GPforums
Ahhh, I knew this kind of stupidity could not evolve on its own. You were obviously created.
You are Genus Homo too
if you don't want to believe in God or a Creator, good for you but in all honesty I feel sorry for you that you think everything just came from nothing by some very extreme chance
Please do. I would like to hear exactly why and how you think time first began - and I assume this is going to be 100% fact and not just a scientific theory?
Not every aspect of evolution has been proven, no. Anyway I was more just scoffing at Kill3r for referring to Darwin of all people to backup his beliefs.
Not once in this thread have I said that I definately believe in God. I am very close to it, and I would rather die believing in a God than die not believing in a God.
Nope, I don't. Your explanation is that everything just magically popped out of nowhere. My explanation is that everything was created and designed with very clear and specific intent, my explanation sounds more logical tbh, even if it is a difficult concept for humans to comprehend.
I'm not really interested in arguing with atheists anymore, I've heard your point of views and I still find them to be completely ridiculous and it's obvious your lack the ability to 'think outside the box' per se, you're stuck in your own little realm of logic and science and not willing to venture outside that realm. You're lucky Cynos from GPforums isn't here, because he would absolutely rip apart your argument and make you look foolish, I just lack the knowledge that he does unfortunately.
You seem like quite an intelligent guy Philo-sopha, but as I mentioned earlier even some of the greatest minds in the world have believed there is a very strong possibility of a God that created the universe, including Hawking and Einstein and many other scientists, so I ask you - do you think you're smarter and more knowledgable than Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein? If these two highly acclaimed scientists think there is a very high likeliness of a 'Creator', what makes you think you possess the knowledge that it is very unlikely?
I also ask you Philo-sofa, are you afraid of death - and complete non-existence? Or do you embrace it as a part of life? when/if you have kids, do you teach this to them - than when they die, that's it, they will never exist again? Because obviously you don't know that this is a fact, but as an atheist this is the only rational option you have, right?
I pity anyone who relies completely on science to try and explain everything, because ultimately science and all it's methods and everything didn't just come from nowhere, something that intricate needs to have been designed by something, despite how you will try your best to explain it when ultimately you can't.
Back to the old imaginary friends and fairies thing again eh, how boring
I'm not interested
Actually, you should test your mind with these ideas and see what you come up with, rather than dismissing them out of hand
Spliff, you're quite right when you say I am the Homo but please use it correctly: there is a capital "H", The ignorance in your comments just makes everything you say laughable!Yes, I am Homo sapiens sapiens, I have a long lineage through various species of Homo and traceable back beyond the first chordate, far beyond the anomalies of the Burgess Shale and into the Stromatoporoids as can be seen, even today, in places such as Shark Bay. Beyond that, well, there is the potential for extraterrestrial seedings via cometary impacts etc, but nothing points towards a creator in the divine sense.
Back to the old imaginary friends and fairies thing again eh, how boringPhilo-sofa, sorry mate but you just wasted your time because I'm not reading any of that, the attitude of people in this thread (excluding you I have to admit) is a disgrace and I'm not interested in being a part of a one-sided discussion anymore
I already have, and have come to the conclusion that it's just an argument that ignorant people like you use to try and ridicule people who believe in a God. It's pathetic, underhanded and proves nothing but how uneducated you are.
