First off settle down. No need to go aggro over nothing.Now to business.You have conclusive proof the universe hasn't been around forever? How do you know the universe wasn't the beginning of everything which would mean it has been around "forever".
You can't invent something that might already exist... they would have invented their own ideas and beliefs about God, I think is what you mean..Science will never know or have all the answers either, so where does that leave you?
Without us (or life thats intelligent) to beleive, god doesn't exist...
And how do you know what sciences limits are, many have tried to guess before (hsitorically) and are now a laughing stock.
anyone seen the show stephen hawking master of the universe? Just about to watch it should be a quite interesting.
Boom.Headshot..
Please do. I would like to hear exactly why and how you think time first began - and I assume this is going to be 100% fact and not just a scientific theory?
Sorry, I'll ignore this thread for another 6 months, again. It makes me angry :p
Much of Islam is the same. You seem to just take the tiny minority of extremists found in any religion and use them to exemplify the religion as a whole.
Not quite sure what you mean... Yes, without any life to believe in a God there would be no need for a God. So how extraordinary it is that life exists then?
Who's we? you're not a scientist, hell you weren't even aware that our universe hasn't existed forever :/
well i beleave that i guy along time ago got a heep of people beleave in what he was cracking on about you could even call him a cult leader, who preformed magic tricks.whitch he clamed to be miricals, like what the indans do in inda. his name was jesus.and you know what people do the same thing in modern times funny that
@ Killer - God your're unintelligent.The Christian faith has evolved dramatically over the last 100 years - away from Dogma and Canonical law and towards a more accepting faith akin to what it should have been from the start. Much of Islam is the same. You seem to just take the tiny minority of extremists found in any religion and use them to exemplify the religion as a whole.
well i beleave that i guy along time ago got a heep of people beleave in what he was cracking on about you could even call him a cult leader, who preformed magic tricks.whitch he clamed to be miricals, like what the indans do in inda. his name was jesus.
you seem confused about the whole universe thingyou seem confused about scienceare you sure your not a christian?
Pew study confirms non-religious are significant blocPRESS RELEASEFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASESurvey shows Non-Religious Outnumber Those of Every Single Faith (But One)Americans' Faiths in Flux as More Reject Their Given ReligionsAmherst, New York (March 3, 2008)‹The most detailed estimates to date of Americans' religious affiliations reports that a significant portion of U.S. citizens claim "none of the above," placing the unaffiliated second only to Roman Catholics in number. Monday's release of the 35,000-respondent U.S. Religious Landscape Survey from the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life shows that 16.1 percent of Americans have no particular religion at all, while 23.9 percent identify themselves as Catholic. The next largest "belief group" is Evangelical Baptist at 10.8 percent. All other denominational groupings show in the single digits or less.The study also shows the number of Americans who identify as atheist or agnostic has risen from 3.2 percent to 4 percent, while a "remarkably high" 44 percent have rejected the religion placed on them in childhood."People are finding out that what they've been handed in youth doesn't work, or isn't important enough to defend when confronted with marriage or some other life situation that forces them to examine it," said Paul Kurtz, founder of the Council for Secular Humanism. "But when the shuffling is done, this study shows that three people are dropping religion altogether for each one gaining a faith."The study also confirms the previous 2004 Pew Forum-University of Akron study findings that those who identify as strictly secular comprise more than 10 percent of the population, only on a much larger scale."The breakdown is interesting, in that it distinguishes between the vaguely religious and those who fall squarely in the secular camp," Kurtz said. "But I would venture to say that there is a significant number of Americans who sympathize with secularism, but who may still be nominal members of religious organizations. It's apparent that a significant percentage of the population identifies with secularism, and I trust politicians will bear this in mind."The Council for Secular Humanism is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit educational organization promoting rational inquiry, secular values and positive human development through the advancement of secular humanism. The Council, publisher of the bimonthly journal Free Inquiry, has a Web site at http://www.secularhumanism.org.
See, those are the kind of pathetic, bullshit comments I was talking about before :disappoin
wow another joyless christian, its a joke - just commentary about how he is as ignorant about science as most of the christians in this threadalso his 'arguments' didn't sound agnostic, the did sound like they were coming from a theist point of viewis your new roll going to be a self righteous commentator that passes judgement on other peoples posts with out adding anything of you own?
