Labels serve differentiate between things which are recognisably different, e.g. Cats and Dogs. If we didn't use labels we may as well just have one word to describe everything that exists.
I can not understand the rants of a mind that has forgone logic and reason for madness. You make no sense. You repeat the same things over and over despite being shown the error in your logic.
You try to use science to justify your assumptions, but don't really understand the science fully, you only understand the little bits and pieces that you select in order to make your jigsaw pieces fit. Fuck the rest, you just ignore them.
I think you have a mental disorder. You should probably spend some of you time looking into that.
Agnostics consider all possibilities which was the point i was making, using examples. I should have guessed that it would sail over your head.And now you know what agnosticism is - do you still consider yourself agnostic?Because the correct "label" that everyone else will use to describe you is Deist - whether you agree with them or not.
The term "mental retardation" is a diagnostic term designed to capture and standardize a group of disconnected categories of mental functioning such as "idiot", "imbecile", and "moron" derived from early IQ tests, which acquired pejorative connotations in popular discourse over time. The term "mental retardation" has itself now acquired some pejorative and shameful connotations over the last few decades due to the use of "retarded" as an insult among younger people. This may in turn have contributed to its replacement with expressions such as "mentally challenged" or "intellectual disability".In North America mental retardation is subsumed into the broader term developmental disability, which also includes epilepsy, autism, cerebral palsy and other disorders that develop during the developmental period (birth to age 18.) Because service provision is tied to the designation developmental disability, it is used by many parents, direct support professional, and physicians. However, in school-based settings, the more specific term mental retardation is still typically used, and is one of 13 categories of disability under which children may be identified for special education services under Public Law 108-446. The phrase intellectual disability is increasingly being used as a synonym for people with significantly below-average cognitive ability.[1] These terms are sometimes used as a means of separating general intellectual limitations from specific, limited deficits as well as indicating that it is not an emotional or psychological disability. Intellectual disability may also used to describe the outcome of traumatic brain injury or lead poisoning or dementing conditions such as Alzheimer's disease. It is not specific to congenital disorders such as Down syndrome. The American Association on Mental Retardation continued to use the term mental retardation until 2006.[2] In June 2006 its members voted to change the name of the organization to the "American Association on Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities," rejecting the options to become the AAID or AADD. Part of the rationale for the double name was that many members worked with people with pervasive developmental disorders, most of whom are not mentally retarded.[3]In the UK, "mental handicap" had become the common medical term, replacing "mental subnormality" in Scotland and "mental deficiency" in England and Wales, until Stephen Dorrell, Secretary of State for Health in England and Wales from 1995-7, changed the NHS's designation to "learning disability." The new term is not yet widely understood, and is often taken to refer to problems affecting schoolwork (the American usage): which are known in the UK as "learning difficulties." British social workers may use "learning difficulty" to refer to both people with MR and those with conditions such as dyslexia.In England and Wales the Mental Health Act 1983 defines "mental impairment" and "severe mental impairment" as "a state of arrested or incomplete development of mind which includes significant/severe impairment of intelligence and social functioning and is associated with abnormally aggressive or seriously irresponsible conduct on the part of the person concerned."[4] As behavior is involved, these are not necessarily permanent conditions: they are defined for the purpose of authorising detention in hospital or guardianship. However, English statute law uses "mental impairment" elsewhere in a less well-defined manner—e.g. to allow exemption from taxes—implying that mental retardation without any behavioural problems is what is meant. Mental Impairment is scheduled to be removed from the Act when it is amended in 2008.
I don't really think anyone needs to claim you are a retard, your comments are enough to establish this as a observable truth. Not for your belief in creation, but for the way you go about justifying it.And yes Newton, Einstein, or any other person justified creation in the manner in which you do then they too would be considered retards. But they did not, did they, they were much more eloquent. Heaven forbid, some even addressed the subject objectively.
All but proven? Like Newtons laws of motion?Or like relativity? Quantum mechanics?Big Bang theory relies on other theories, so until we have a unified theory the big bang is not "all but proven".I don't think you even understand what a scientific theory really is.
I don't think you even understand what a scientific theory really is.
Did you see the word "could" in Dawkins statement? Do you know what "could" means? It does not mean "did".Another misrepresentation.
Judging by the comment above it appears as if someone already has.
More paradoxical bullshit. If you can't know anything about what occurred before the big bang then how can you say time did not exist?
Is this so hard to grasp. Observable space-time was created in the big bang, as above, but because it started with a singularity then no predictions can be made about anything beyond that point. Therefore it is impossible to say if space-time also existed prior to the big bang.
Tell me, what observation did you make that allowed you to know that no space-time existed prior to the big bang?
Okay, i'll let you have that one. I made a spelling mistake - hey it happens. I can accept my failures.
Or, perhaps religious scientists are just shit at their jobs?
I met a religious theoretical physicist, his name was Bojan. He was on the Orkut forums. He tried to prove that the sun went around the Earth by constructing a non-inertial frame of reference where the earth was stationary.Most physicists would consider this a bit of a joke, I mean I could construct a non-inertial frame of reference on my cock and that would make it the centre of the universe as well.Yet to him it seemed to provide solace that the bible was not incorrect.
Yes, and most of it caused by ignorance and hatred originating in religion.
I don't think you quite understand Greek mythology,
Primarily they are remembered for their scientific achievements. Not their creed.
Don't bother, it will likely be useless drivel anyway.
ExcellentConclusion 3 reached: You are a psychopath. This was the last piece of evidence required
Circular arguments are not good solutions. Your pseudosciencientific explanations are also baseless
Emphasis mine. The whole community is against you. It is quite unprecedented for that to happen+rep for the Snatch quote
Actually your rabid drooling, frothy mouth-foaming attempts to assert yourself make you look bad. The massive amounts of spouted hypocrisy speak for themselves
Take your pick, as plenty of others here have.
Tiwaking, out of all the people that post in this thread, your posts are always by far the stupidest.
Yes we know you are scientifically-minded (or atleast pretend to be) Congrat-u-fucking-lations. And while you limit yourself solely to the pursuit of nothing else but scientific knowledge, never even thinking about anything other than the how the universe works; everyone else who is wise will pursue knowledge in all areas and become more enlightened about the universe than you will ever be. Don't respond to my posts. Thank you.
That.... really isn't true. I actually lol'd.
Science > Numerology
The thing is; I don't deny that he is intelligent. If I did then I wouldn't even bother arguing with him in the first place. But the fact that he accuses me of not being intelligent and not knowing what the fuck i'm talking about severely pisses me off considering there are a fair few things I have corrected him about. I don't think anyone here is stupid, even if I sometimes say I do. It's rather just that I constantly get the insults thrown at me for no good fucking reason, so I'll throw them right back.NO I am not scientifically minded DirtyApe and thus is probably the reason I am not capable of providing better, more thorough explanations as what some people might be; did the fact that some philosophers didn't work in the field of science prevent them from understanding scientific concepts and theories? No it did not.
It's funny how you shrug off DirtyApe's replies thinking that he is a "dumbass". He is quite possibly the most intelligent person i have ever met, and i work amongst the countries brightest PhD's/Doctorate's.
I thought I was , stfu then
Oh shit, sorry for not being as intelligent as Newton and Einstein! Maybe if I was as knowledgeable as them maybe I would come to the same solution as eloquently as they did. Are YOU as intelligent as Newton and Einstein? If not, would you care to stop being a hypocritical douchebag?Yes, the Big Bang theory IS all but proven. Because the Big Bang theory doesn't say what caused the Big Bang, where it came from, or why - the Big Bang is about the first moments of the beginning of the universe.I don't think you understand what the Big Bang theory really is. Because you're a fucking moron.It's the fact that Dawkins thinks life being intelligently designed by alien beings is an intriguing possiblity, whilst anyone who thinks God is an intriguing possibility is 'delusional' which is laughable. He's a fucking joke, just like you.Says the dumb cunt called dirtyape. You obviously completely missed the point of what I was talking about, but i'm not suprised because you are pretty prone to failure it seems.Okay, put it this way. If we know that no time existed before the Big Bang (and yes, we do know this) then it's going to be very difficult to explain any kind of physical existence existing before that. Obviously. Like Stephen Hawkins said, "It's like asking what's north of the north pole." If the Big Bang is 100% correct, then most likely there was nothing before the Big Bang. It's not hard to accept that if space, time, energy and all matter of physical existence came from this one point of singularity, then there is most likely not going to be any kind of physical existence before that, extremely unlikely atleast. Go read Stephen Hawking's "A brief history of time" ffs.Because spacetime BEGAN with our universe dumbass. I'm not saying it's IMPOSSIBLE for anything to physically exist before the Big Bang, just extremely unlikely in the circumstances, and any parallel universes or anything would be completely fucking irrelevant to us so anyway were they to exist.No, I made the spelling mistake aswell, the point was not the spelling of his name but that he is one of the best examples of someone standing up for their beliefs. If you weren't a complete failure you might have already know this.Nope, you're just shit at being shit.How does the Earth revolving around the sun make the bible incorrect?Without religion we would not be at the stage we are today, religion paved the way for science. Regardless, i'm not religious so I don't really give a shit.Yes, I do. They didn't think the existence of everything came from nothing for absolutely no reason or purpose did they? No, they didn't. Dumbass.Purely your opinion. And a pretty retarded opinion at that.I could say the same about you!So basically, you can't come up with any coherent posts or arguments to respond to mine, so you'll just try to appear 'witty' with one of your shit posts completely devoid of any content whatsoever. Nice one Tiwanoob.What the fuck are you talking about? Quit talking out of your ass, it's unpleasant. FYI I was talking about a solution to all the bickering and insulting that goes on in this thread, but if you would all rather act like a bunch of immature fuckin children then so be it.I used the Snatch quote first Tiwanoob. Is the whole community against Thefleastyler and Krasher for being Christians aswell?Do you know what's so hilarious? Out of all my posts and arguments, this is the BEST response you can come up with? Man you fail. You even fail at failing.
I haven't said zip in here but have been reading it a fair bit... this takes me to the below caption.A wise man once said: "Delete all of psyches posts and ban him for eternityparty!"
If there are two things that should be known about me, it's a) I swear a lot. (it's not because I lack in vocabulary, I just like swearing) and b) I don't take shit from anybody. I don't mind constructive criticism but when it crosses the line into personal insults...
Anyway that's just my thought, im off to get drunk..
I really hope there's something after death and we're not just basically advanced amoeba living on a warm rock from day to day.I think most people deep down feel the same maybe.Cheers for reading.
There will never be an answer to this thread. We all know. Until we die I guess.Who was Jesus? To me everyday more and more he sounds like a man who, living in a basically messed up world, got sick to death of people worshipping bulls, mountains, bushes etc and said worship mankind.I honestly believe he existed but not in the way most churches make out... magical, all seeing, all living...maybe there's 'something or someone' like that, wouldn't that be awesome, but to me Jesus was just a dude who had his head screwed on correctly, an intelligent man, a man who basically said boohoo sucks to you and your way of life, knew humans were basically sheep and needed to be lead and did it.Just my 2 cents is all.I really hope there's something after death and we're not just basically advanced amoeba living on a warm rock from day to day.I think most people deep down feel the same maybe.Cheers for reading.
Jesus did TCP/IP !?
There were plenty of smarter people with better ideals that came before and after his supposed existence, but he just had the better networking skills.
