can you explain why they never once mentioned scrabble?
ouch dude...seriously think about it for a secondwe are talking 4500 000 000 years to try and how many seconds/attempts in a day? (actually technically it is less years than that because we assume the initial event happened closer to the begining of our known timelinebut thats on ONE SINGLE PLANET....how big is the universe?suddenly we have a lot of roles of the diceprobability of 1 event occuring is also a function of how many attempts/ timeframe. so saying life is improbable based on the percentage chance of it occuring in one single attempt is misleading......as is even saying that it is improbable given a small time frame.....(as i pointed out we have multiple planets/the universe to consider)so no you cant claim that life occuring is improbable....if life has a single percentage possibility of it occuring and there is near endless attempts then life is PROBABLE to occur EVENTUALLY...SOMEWHERE....at the VERY LEAST it is not as improbable as the religious make it out to be
I don't even get to the numbers. My rebuttal has always been that if life in the universe is so unlikely why do those same odds not apply to whoever it was that had to be there first to make it happen. For some reason god(s) seem exempt from the "stunningly unlikely" argument
Probably because you're an ignorant shit who takes any post that is at odds with your opinion out of context in a sad attempt to seem intelligent.
do some reading, learn a bit and come back when you can keep up with the adults.
Cause God's not alive.Anyway, you can't apply odds to whether a god exists or not, it's just ridiculous.
Put me down for $10kYou don't know the odds... now beatem.
.... but in the interview he seemed like a massive jerk and resorted to ad hominem attacks.....
...are you just mentally incapable....
... are you actually just an intolerant prick....
..... you're an ignorant shit ....
.... in a sad attempt to seem intelligent.
You took exception to my questioning what I was being told and attacked me for being ignorant and my beliefs for being retarded ... again.
'non-overlapping majisteria'
Anyone have any thoughts on "Irreducible Complexity"?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
I'd just be parroting some of the quotes found in that link but...Just because something is complex now doesn't mean it couldn't have been simplier and have a lesser function/different function at an earlier point.See the mousetrap/Catapult example.
stories designed to teach a particular but unconventional metaphysical view of reality indirectly, by using analogy * One familiar example - the Garden of Eden story of Adam and Eve being cast out in shame - has lost its metaphorical meaning over time; the psychological/metaphysical consequences of shame when the innocent creative ego (feminine aspect) is tempted to reach for power and subsequently enters the belief in duality (eating of the tree of good and evil) because reason (masculine aspect of mind) has yet to waken. In the story, return to the Garden and Tree of Eternal Aliveness (divine reality) is only possible through purification of mind (the gate is protected by the lone innocent cherubim/Self wielding a flaming sword.) Compare this to the symbols of fire, masculine/feminine unity, time, fearlessness, and ego transcendence found in images of "Shiva the Destroyer" (Hindu) where the transformational process is described by visual metaphors. Christ is well-known for his use of parables, consistently using them to teach compassion and inclusion, while many contain hidden metaphorical content for "those who have ears to hear." In one of the most enigmatic stories from the Gospel of Thomas, he describes the Kingdom of Heaven as like an old woman returning home after a long journey, carrying all she values - a bag full of grain - on her back. A tear allows the grain to escape during the journey and she arrives home to discover it empty. Very Buddhist in tone, each word of the story has significance in describing the return path to the divine through a gradual emptying of earthbound value concepts and subtle internal conflicts. The use of the term, old woman, is a common metaphor related to the mind's incapacity to create, when controlled by embedded defensive ego values.
ignorant christian propaganda.....one of the examples they give is the eye, there is a chapter in "Climbing Mount Improbable" that has an excellent discussion on how the eye evolved. But i bet it is a great idea for people with a superstitious agenda who dont want to accept the reality of evolution, and if i had an anti-evolution church i would include this in a series of lectures designed to make it look like the weight of evidence was against evolution when in reality the arguments i was using were flawed. I would kick off my series of lectures with something along the lines of "the probability of life starting is so close to zero it must have been god" and use scrabble as an analogy. this would be my second lecture.
ignorant christian propaganda.....
... But i bet it is a great idea for people with a superstitious agenda ...
... if i had an anti-evolution church ...
Just curious.. (and shamelessly trying to change the topic to something more interesting than the usual evolution debate)
if i had an anti-evolution church
Dante, this quote from your source( Wiki) "Christ is well-known for his use of parables, consistently using them to teach compassion and inclusion, while many contain hidden metaphorical content for "those who have ears to hear." contains the assumption that Christ was real. That is NOT proven (hence this ongoing debate).
