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[TofuEater]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/9/story.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=10525381
Damon Hill raised this during the race and Raikkonen himself has brought up the possibility of dropping out, saying that Formula One wasn't the be-all-and-end-all. Interesting. Let's start speculating about replacements - the early sniff is Alonso or Kubrica.

[Zarkov]

Alonso?

Haha.

[Shasta]

Yeah, I've been a Raikkonnen fan since he started, but he's pretty lazy and only performs when he feels like it. He often only gets up 20 mins before he has to be in the car. He loses motivation really easily. I think he's got to the point where he has a championship now, heaps of money, and I think he just wants to go spend it and party now etc. I think after his contract expires next year he'll quit F1, unless something drastic happens like he starts kicking arse in every race with ease. As soon as something bad happens to him he pretty much gives up.

The rumours are that Alonso is up for his seat when he goes, and Ferrari don't seem to care about his prima donna attitude, so wait and see I guess.

2009 is pretty much a reset button for everyone, as the rules - especially the aero rules and the KERS devices - are so different that literally anyone could be up the top, as the cars are virtually a clean slate.

[Spork]

Hmm, ever since Alonso originally left Renault he hasn't been that great really. As if Ferrari want the sloppy thirds.

[TofuEater]

Ferrari don't seem to care about his prima donna attitude,

Don't seem to care? Dood, he'll fit in perfectly. :bigglasse

[Zarkov]

Don't seem to care? Dood, he'll fit in perfectly. :bigglasse

Ferrari could give team lessons to the All Blacks.

Ferrari and Schuey were one of the all time great teams by any definition of the word.

Alonso wouldn't know the meaning of the word.

[vedds]

A few snaps from the Hungaroring.
Outstanding day, race, crowd, and the perfect finish with Massa shitting out and the Mclaren coming through for the win:rnr::rnr:

I'll post some video when i get back to NZ

[TofuEater]

Of course if it had been Hamilton that had been released into the path of Sutil, Mclaren would have been stripped of all their points, faced a majesterial inquiry and had the scrutineers pore over their 2009 car before letting them race next season. Ron Dennis would have had to swear his first born to the devil (Ecclestone) and taken full page ads out in all the major European newspapers begging forgiveness. Meanwhile, Ferarri get a wet bus ticket to help Massa get up to speed. :cussing:

[vedds]

Got to keep 85% of the fans happy.

Im looking forward to next year and the new rules. Will be interesting to see how massa goes with a car that isnt superior and hell have to learn to drive in traffic.....

[Zarkov]

He's going to be 2008 World Champion.

Not bad for someone who can't drive, even if you believe Tofu conspiracy theories.

[TofuEater]

He's going to be 2008 World Champion.

Care to make it interesting?

[Baffled]

He's going to be 2008 World Champion.

Not bad for someone who can't drive, even if you believe Tofu conspiracy theories.

Hamiltons got it this time. Massa can go (and try) get a gp2 title.

[Zarkov]

Care to make it interesting?

If I'm wrong I'll acknowledge your expertise.

If not, I'll say I told you so.

[Quasikomodo]

Got to keep 85% of the fans happy.

Im looking forward to next year and the new rules. Will be interesting to see how massa goes with a car that isnt superior and hell have to learn to drive in traffic.....

Quite to the contrary I think the McLaren at this stage of the season is the better, more sorted car. Massa is simply driving around the Ferrari's limitations ... pity about their new found reliability problems as well!!

Much as I respect Hamilton and his driving skills ..... go Felipe!!

[TofuEater]

If I'm wrong I'll acknowledge your expertise.

If not, I'll say I told you so.

Oh, i was thinking something along the lines of sending a pm that the other person had to repeat verbatim in a thread to mark the occasion.

[Zarkov]

Start your engines.

Grid positions.

2008 FORMULA 1 ING BELGIAN GRAND PRIX
Pos    No    Driver    Team    Q1   Q2   Q3    Laps
1    22    Lewis Hamilton    McLaren-Mercedes    1:46.887   1:46.088   1:47.338    12
2    2    Felipe Massa    Ferrari    1:46.873   1:46.391   1:47.678    16
3    23    Heikki Kovalainen    McLaren-Mercedes    1:46.812   1:46.037   1:47.815    16
4    1    Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    1:46.960   1:46.298   1:47.992    14
5    3    Nick Heidfeld    BMW Sauber    1:47.419   1:46.311   1:48.315    18
6    5    Fernando Alonso    Renault    1:47.154   1:46.491   1:48.504    18
7    10    Mark Webber    Red Bull-Renault    1:47.270   1:46.814   1:48.736    19
8    4    Robert Kubica    BMW Sauber    1:47.093   1:46.494   1:48.763    20
9    14    Sebastien Bourdais    STR-Ferrari    1:46.777   1:46.544   1:48.951    19
10    15    Sebastian Vettel    STR-Ferrari    1:47.152   1:46.804   1:50.319    16
11    11    Jarno Trulli    Toyota    1:47.400   1:46.949      13
12    6    Nelsinho Piquet    Renault    1:47.052   1:46.965      15
13    12    Timo Glock    Toyota    1:47.359   1:46.995      13
14    9    David Coulthard    Red Bull-Renault    1:47.132   1:47.018      15
15    7    Nico Rosberg    Williams-Toyota    1:47.503   1:47.429      12
16    17    Rubens Barrichello    Honda    1:48.153         9
17    16    Jenson Button    Honda    1:48.211         9
18    20    Adrian Sutil    Force India-Ferrari    1:48.226         9
19    8    Kazuki Nakajima    Williams-Toyota    1:48.268         9
20    21    Giancarlo Fisichella    Force India-Ferrari    1:48.447         9

[Zarkov]

What's the best F1/Motorsport website btw?

I've had enough of the official one.

[Spork]

http://www.itv.com/f1 is alright.

[Spork]

Damn those last laps were awesome!

BL Kimi!

[Zarkov]

Go Massa.

Haha.

Cheater Hamilton gets relegated.

[Baffled]

Oh what a bs ruling, he gave the spot back... and massa wouldnt have passed him.

[TofuEater]

F1 actually stands for Ferrari 1st. It's so obvious - but of course cats like Zarkov will take this "win" as an example of how good Massa is as a driver. Yet real drivers disagree:
"I don't think Hamilton did anything wrong," said Niki Lauda, a former world champion for both Ferrari and McLaren.
"He was going on the outside, he let him (Raikkonen) by... and afterwards he passed him."
:cussing:

[vedds]

THis is another fail result by the fail F1 officials/ferrari boofers.

[Spork]

What happened to Glock? I am sure he finished in 8th, Webber and him had a massive battle on the last lap, even the Australian commentators were talking about it after the race.

[Zarkov]

F1 actually stands for Ferrari 1st. It's so obvious - but of course cats like Zarkov will take this "win" as an example of how good Massa is as a driver. Yet real drivers disagree:
"I don't think Hamilton did anything wrong," said Niki Lauda, a former world champion for both Ferrari and McLaren.
"He was going on the outside, he let him (Raikkonen) by... and afterwards he passed him."
:cussing:

The driver literally "cutting the the corner" isn't supposed to derive any advantage from it and Hamilton clearly did, since he never dropped back from an alongside position on the following straight.

Whats worse, is that Hamilton prevented Kimi from getting proper track position, which disadvantaged the Ferrari driver into the next corner and probably contributed to the fracas that ensued.

When Schumi did this sort of thing, everyone whined about it, and quite rightly so.