HUGE amounts of money. So much money that there has never been a transparent track of the amount of money spent on just rating a game.
The fees for classifying publications are set down in the Films, Videos, and Publications Classifcation (Fees) Regulations 1993. Electronic games have a specifed base fee of $1,400, plus an additional fee of $100 per hour or part of an hour for time in excess of 5 hours spent examining the electronic game. All fees are GST inclusive.
Ultimately the ESRB(Entertainment Software Rating Board) control ALL game ratings.
tiwa, im talking about NZ only, put your tinfoil hat awayi'm talking about shitty parents, not taking an interest in their kids, not paying attention to what they are trying to buy, and going fucking ballistic at my staff and I when i try to do something as simple as comply with the lawyes, i understand that it's "just a game", and it's just a tiny bit of weed, a fraction over the speed limit, you only put some of the knife into that guy...the law's the law and last time i check "but it's a stupid law" was not a defenceas it stands at the moment, they wouldn't dare go after the parents, who 9 times out of 10 either bullied or outright lied to supply the game to someone under the age....they'll go after the shop and the staff, cause it's easier.and im sorry, my job, and jobs of my staff are worth more than you having a quiet weekend because little timmy is too busy killing hookers in his room to bother youi would rather see a reasonably sensible ratings system (which IMO we already have) coupled with some decent enforcement against shops AND parents who supply these rated items to kids. i'm sick to death of people skiting that the warehouse sold it to them, or a video shop never asks when im following the law.games are more realistic now than they ever have been, and will continue to be....no i dont think games turn people into killing machines.....but when you see the types of parents that typically try to buy this stuff for their kids...jesus, the question of why this country's kids seem to be batshit insane is answered:shithouse parents, no limits, no supervision, and the constant reinforcement that violence, bullying and deceit will get you what you want
I agree. But I don't know if the age limit should be 18 for video games like gta it should probably be more like 16. If they are old enough to have kids and drive a car they're old enough to play gta imo.
tiwa, im talking about NZ only, put your tinfoil hat away
it's not about being a policeman, it's about doing my job according to the rules, i dont have the luxury of picking and chosing which ones i follow
Does your store clearly display these?
I was thinking of this thread today while out at the mall, popped into EB Games purely to check what kind of display they had in relation to ratings, the fines that come with it and the stores obligation and found nothing.Does your store clearly display these? If i were a parent purchasing a game at this store today I probably would have laughed if the clerk mentioned anything about fines - having it clearly displayed in full view would make more of an impact and be a more active yet less strenuous effort of policing.
Make more money from games by setting up arbitrary guidelines and force publishers to either sign up or die? Exactly rightIt happened with movies and music and when games got lumped with it it happened againIts like no one ever learns
The premiere of Schnews' great film about the campaign against EDO-MBM arms factory near Brighton, and how the British police tried to stop it from being screened. All of "On the Verge" will be broadcast on visionOntv.
Quote from: Tiwaking!;860938Well it all boils down to this:Why put ratings on games?Protect childrenz? BullshitEducate populace? BullshitMake more money from games by setting up arbitrary guidelines and force publishers to either sign up or die? Exactly rightCould you explain your theory on this? Who is making money out of the ratings scheme, and how?
Well it all boils down to this:Why put ratings on games?Protect childrenz? BullshitEducate populace? BullshitMake more money from games by setting up arbitrary guidelines and force publishers to either sign up or die? Exactly right
Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song was "Rated X by an all-white jury." The X rating in this case was a default judgment by the MPAA since Van Peebles couldn't afford to submit the film for a proper rating. (That the MPAA allowed the "X" to appear on films it never reviewed explains why it became essentially synonymous with pornography, since once the MPAA realized they could not claim it as a trademark they stopped using it as an official rating and now like to pretend that it never was one.)
Well it all boils down to this:Why put ratings on games?
Game Rating Board TycoonSuggested GameSubmitted by perplexing on Tue, 07/27/2010 - 07:45. http://games.heartcomplex.net/grbt/index.htmlStatus: Won't DoGame Rating Board TycoonDeveloper: Irene(I'm not the developer of this game.)The game is simple, but I have to explain background little bit for you.It's satire game about game rating policy in Korea. Game Rating Board is a governmental organization for rate games. It's illegal to release a game without rating in Korea, and this applied to literally all (video)games including indie's and even from hobby game developers, whether your game is freeware or commercial.And they impose commission fee for rating, about $25 for Flash and download game under 10MB is least, for downloadable games over 300MB is about $200. It's basic fee if your game is educational and not for online multiplayer. If you make RPG with multiplayer mode and is over 300MB, you should give them about $907. This is enforcement.If your game is not rated, they'll shut down your website. They shut down or blocked several websites and games already. And Apple voluntarily shut down their games category for Korean AppStore.Yes, Game Rating Board Tycoon is not rated by them, and not closed. And the game is little exaggerated for satire. GRB don't shut down all games around the world, and they can't. I'm Korean, and I can play all the games on this site. But there is the law that stipulates all games should be rated and games without rating is illegal. They applicate this law anytime "when they want".Quotep.s the 'Game' is unplayable rubbish. Oh the sweet irony
p.s the 'Game' is unplayable rubbish. Oh the sweet irony
Quote from: Tiwaking!;900829HUGE amounts of money. So much money that there has never been a transparent track of the amount of money spent on just rating a game.Quote from: OFLCThe fees for classifying publications are set down in the Films, Videos, and Publications Classifcation (Fees) Regulations 1993. Electronic games have a specifed base fee of $1,400, plus an additional fee of $100 per hour or part of an hour for time in excess of 5 hours spent examining the electronic game. All fees are GST inclusive.I guess huge is subjective. Of course, that fee above doesn't apply to some games, which don't need to be rated, namely:- any video game carrying an Australian G, PG or M rating, and- any video game carrying a British U, Uc, PG, 12 or 12A ratingIn 2007/8 they considered 55 games, of which 9 were rated R18. Big money.(Sources: Policy Advice 1 and 5 here and the annual report here)Quote from: Tiwaking!;900829Ultimately the ESRB(Entertainment Software Rating Board) control ALL game ratings.Although not NZ, which doesn't accept their ratings. Perhaps control over the Office of Film and Literature Censorship is exercised through their control of the UK and Australian authorities?
The British Board of Film Classification (previously known as the British Board of Film Censors) was established in 1912 to ensure films remained free of 'indecorous dancing', 'references to controversial politics' and 'men and women in bed together', amongst other perceived indiscretions.Today, it continues to censor and in some cases ban films, while UK law ensures that, in effect, a film cannot be released in British cinemas without a BBFC certificate.Each certificate costs around £1000 for a feature film of average length. For many independent filmmakers, such a large upfront can prove prohibitively expensive.For instance, if we raise £108.59, the film will be one minute long. If we raise £526.90, it'll be an hour long. And so on.Update: Here's a brilliant website built by Jon Ginn that tracks how long the film is, in real time.
This movie is 14 hours long.
An update on the absurdness and hypocrisy of censorship ratings and costs:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/charlielyne/make-the-censors-watch-paint-drying