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"When Neil died in 1989 from an injury suffered when he served in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders in World War II, Catherine moved up to Matamata, where she now lives at Matamata's RSA flats."



Gangrene?

Bullet hole in the head?

Run over by a Tiger tank?

Reply #325 Posted: February 12, 2011, 04:35:14 pm

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I sense a conspiracy, something suspicious about her husbands death if you ask me.

Dieing of a over 40year old wound?

Reply #326 Posted: February 13, 2011, 02:59:05 am

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embedded shrapenel maybe?

Reply #327 Posted: February 13, 2011, 03:06:02 am
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i had kinda hope speakman had died, what a pity

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Probably all the preservatives.

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Hope you've read this.

Reply #328 Posted: February 13, 2011, 12:40:32 pm

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.

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Yeah I did Arni, it's not bad, but doesn't make me want to eat one....(see my emoticon: disingenuous comment?)

Here's on for our Australian cousins:

http://mathaba.net/news/?x=625980

Australia: There is Poison in Your Tap Water -- Sent With Love From China


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On Monday the South Australia Parliament House in Adelaide was visited by Dr. Paul Connett, Professor of Chemistry and long time "fluoride" fighter and Dr. Andrew Harms former President of the Australian Dental Association, who presented the facts about the flawed "science" of forced water "fluoridation" and many of the harms being caused by this unethical, criminal activity which masquerades as "health" policy.......The public will be shocked to realize that what they have been told about fluoride in the water is far from the truth, and that the "fluoride", unlike that found in high grade toothpastes, is not pharmaceutical in nature but actually industrial chemical and toxic waste product, much of it from China. It is being dispersed into the water supply, where freedom of information requests obtained by Bressington show the high levels of toxicity and the presence of many poisons and even uranium, in Adelaide's water supply....South Australia's people will no doubt conclude upon seeing the evidence, that the governments, officials, departments and media that they have trusted for so long, have not only sold them short, but have been actively promoting sickness and toxicity which benefits only the medical profession, big industry, the pharmaceutical industry and the media and politicians who receive perks and kick-backs from those industries.....

Reply #329 Posted: February 20, 2011, 08:07:35 am
Recycle your red poppies, paint them white, and wear them throughout the year.

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This does not surprise me one bit, Adelaide tap water tastes like arse. This is why I only drink filtered water or rain water.

Reply #330 Posted: February 20, 2011, 08:41:00 pm

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Noooooooooo!!!!! razzlefarg hunnnghhh rabble!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10707631

Energy drink linked to psychotic episodes
4:38 PM Sunday Feb 20, 2011

Caffeinated energy drinks may trigger a psychotic episode in people with mental illness, a New Zealand expert has warned after documenting the case of a young man with schizophrenia.

The 27-year-old man had two separate psychotic events a week apart linked to his intake of the drink Demon Shot.

Auckland University Associate Professor Psychiatry Professor David Menkes said these events occurred at a time when the man, who was prone to persecutory thought and hallucinations, was otherwise responding well to anti-psychotic medication.

In the first instance, the man drank two 60ml bottles of Demon Shot and later reported experiencing recurrent thoughts, over several hours, of "people wanting to harm him".

"One week later, he drank three Demon Shots over 15 minutes," Prof Menkes said.

"He was observed to be emotionally labile (moving from one point to another) - initially laughing and talkative, later becoming restless, withdrawn and argumentative."

Other symptoms included a rapid pulse and insomnia, which took 24 hours to subside.

The man described again having had paranoid thoughts over several hours and an experience "consistent with a psychotic episode".

"The fact that our patient had the same reaction on two distinct occasions is important," Prof Menkes said.

There were known cases where a high intake of caffeine could exacerbate a psychotic condition, although this appeared to be the first linked to consuming energy drinks.

The man's case was "evidence that some patients with treated schizophrenia may be vulnerable to exacerbation of their illness by caffeine-containing energy drinks", he said.

Demon Shot drinks are widely available in Australia and New Zealand and they contain 200mg of caffeine plus taurine, B vitamins and guarana, which may have other stimulant properties.

According to its website, each Demon Shot provides a "massive energy hit that delivers up to six hours of concentrated mental and physical responsiveness".

The drinks also carry a warning which includes it should not be consumed by people sensitive to caffeine, and no more than two drinks a day.

The case is detailed in a letter published in the latest edition of the Medical Journal of Australia. - AAP

Reply #331 Posted: February 21, 2011, 12:34:35 am

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3 drinks in 15 minutes, that's crazy.


Let all do it.

Reply #332 Posted: February 21, 2011, 07:28:16 am

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Sue Bradford...  again. She's already planning a protest but hasn't even read the actual report yet????

Talk about a "closed mind"! Surely getting folks capable of working back out into the workforce is healthy for both them and the country?! Stopping benefit/sickness etc. fraud is also a good thing?!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10707698

Bombshell on way for beneficiaries. By Simon Collins. 5:30 AM Monday Feb 21, 2011

About 300,000 welfare beneficiaries who are judged to be capable of work will face a day of reckoning tomorrow when the Government receives a report that recommends they be forced to look for jobs.

A welfare working group chaired by economist Paula Rebstock is poised to recommend a package of radical changes which Ms Rebstock says will be "more extensive than what most have ever done in a one-off reform".

Former Green MP Sue Bradford, who now leads a new group called Auckland Action Against Poverty, said the report was shaping up to make the 1991 benefit cuts look like "chicken feed" in terms of their impact on present and future beneficiaries.

Her group plans a protest action at the Henderson Work and Income office at 2pm tomorrow, two hours after the report becomes public.


The report's main thrust is expected to be extending the obligation to look for paid work to the vast majority of beneficiaries between age 18 and 64.

Ms Rebstock said yesterday that only a third of the 352,700 working-aged beneficiaries were currently required to look for work - all 67,000 on unemployment benefits, 43,000 sole parents with no children under age 6 and, from this May, 9000 sickness beneficiaries assessed as being able to work at least 15 hours a week.

"We would see that percentage increasing very significantly," she said.

Her interim report last November said only 20,000 people on invalid benefits had such severe disabilities or illnesses that they could never be expected to work.

It also suggested that sole parents should have to look for part-time work when their youngest children turn either 1, in line with the maximum parental leave, or 3, when "free" early childhood education begins. If it opts in the end for age 2, that would exempt only 22,500 sole-parent beneficiaries with youngest children under 2.

That would increase the proportion of beneficiaries required to look for work from 37 per cent at present to 88 per cent, or about 310,000 people.

It is not known whether the final report will pick up other tough options from the interim report, such as reducing the level of benefits after a year or requiring beneficiaries to work for their money after two years.

But Ms Rebstock said any hardline proposals for beneficiaries would be matched by proposals for families, employers, health services and the Government to give people more help to get off welfare.

"You can't just pick the nice things, and you can't just pick the things that tighten things up," she said. "You have got to pick a combination of the two."

She said a key theme would be improving outcomes for the 222,000 children who are growing up in welfare-dependent homes. That will include expanded programmes for teenage parents and their families - a crucial group because most beneficiaries with children are sole parents and a third of all sole-parent beneficiaries had a first baby before age 20.

The working group's interim report suggested requiring teen parents under 18 to live with their parents or a responsible adult, and requiring the teens to immunise their babies, attend Plunket regularly, attend parenting programmes and take their children to early childhood education.

The working group is also keen to develop services, modelled on the Accident Compensation Corporation's Better@Work scheme, which help health services and employers to plan together for the gradual return to work of people with illnesses or disabilities.

"One of the critical things is to be working with doctors so they can, in a very timely way, be approaching a patient from the understanding that it's really important, if it can be safely done, to keep this person in work or get them back to work as quickly as possible," Ms Rebstock said.

She said the group would recommend taking a long-term view, accepting that there could be increased costs in the short term to make what could be huge savings in the long term.
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Reply #333 Posted: February 21, 2011, 08:58:05 am

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This does not surprise me one bit, Adelaide tap water tastes like arse. This is why I only drink filtered water or rain water.

Beat me to it, but I still drink it straight from the tap. I figure it'll either kill me or the mixes of chemicals will give me super powers.

Reply #334 Posted: February 21, 2011, 11:29:50 am

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If comic books have taught us anything (which they have). It's that drinking toxic waste will make you a super hero.

Or a horrible deformed super villain.

Reply #335 Posted: February 21, 2011, 12:37:48 pm

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Either way, I think it would be a lot of fun.

Reply #336 Posted: February 21, 2011, 01:40:04 pm

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If comic books have taught us anything (which they have). It's that drinking toxic waste will make you a super hero.

Or a horrible deformed super villain.

But which one are you Spacemonkey?

That's the question.

Reply #337 Posted: February 21, 2011, 03:39:47 pm

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Miss you guys =(

Reply #338 Posted: February 21, 2011, 04:58:37 pm

lol @ console hate

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This guy is the absolute business.
David Icke
I cant get to his website so here are some quotes from Wikipedia.
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In April 1991 he announced on the BBC's Terry Wogan show that he was the son of God, and predicted that the world would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes.

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At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.
Not Kris Kristofferson too?! Those reptilian bastards took Kris!
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What followed became what Icke calls his "turquoise period." He began to wear only turquoise because, he explained, it is a conduit of positive energy.
I think he is on to something here. I have never been attacked by lizards while wearing turquoise.

Reply #339 Posted: March 29, 2011, 07:21:34 am
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This would explain why dogs like to kill lizards, as they are protecting us from the mighty overlords.

Reply #340 Posted: March 29, 2011, 11:11:17 am

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Ah, the reptillians. Now thats one theory even I can laugh off.

Who here is aware of Kleksdorp spheres? Manufactured by intelligent hands, these things have been carbon dated at 3.8 Billion years old. 3.8 billion years ago, the earth wasn't even a solid mass.




The video description is long, but thorough. TL:DR they are ovoid like planets, bulbous around the "equator" always with two concentric rings denoting said equator. They have a constant radius from core to outer edge, and are hollow with a gooey liquid filling that turns to dust when exposed to oxygen. The thickness of the shell is constant.
The shell is made from metal not naturally occurring on earth, but can be produced by metallurgy. These puppies not only predate human metallurgy, they also predate complex life on earth.

Hundreds have been recovered.
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Reply #341 Posted: March 29, 2011, 12:29:55 pm

lol @ console hate

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Just a few martian eggs we've just prevented from spawning on M-day

Reply #342 Posted: March 29, 2011, 01:33:33 pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klerksdorp_sphere

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The various claims[1][2][4][6] that these objects are either "perfectly round" or perfect spheres is now known to be incorrect as directly observed by Heinrich[8][9][10]. These specimens vary widely in shape, from noticeably flattened spheres to distinct disks. As illustrated by Heinrich[9][10], some of the Klerksdorp spheres are intergrown with each other, like a mass of soap bubbles. The observations and figure refute claims that these objects are either always spherical or isolated in their occurrence. As noted by Heinrich[9][10], even grooved spheres are not perfect spheres and some consist of intergrown spheres.

Similarly, the claims that these objects consist of metal, i.e. "...a nickel-steel alloy which does not occur naturally..." according to Jochmans[4] are definitely false as discovered by Cairncross[7] and Heinrich[9][10]. The fact that many of the web pages that make this claim also incorrectly identify the pyrophyllite quarries, from which these objects came, as the "Wonderstone Silver Mine" is evidence that these authors have not bothered to verify the validity of, in this case, misinformation taken from other sources since these quarries are neither known as silver mines nor has silver ever been mined in them in the decades in which they have been in operation[11][13].

Heinrich[14] notes that one of Michael Cremo's sources regarding the allegedly anomalous spheres was the Weekly World News which he described as "...a [sic] unreliable source of data for discussing the origins of the South African spheres described as used by Forbidden Archeology". As noted by Cairncross[7], it appears that the source of the Weekly World News article is an earlier article by Barritt[3]. This article[3] appeared in a 1982 issue of Scope magazine about these objects. Scope was a South African tabloid-style magazine that, like the Weekly World News, cannot be regarded in any way as being a credible source.

Additionally, Roelf Marx, as quoted in Cairncross[7] and Pope and Cairncross[15], former curator of the Klerksdorp Museum, reports that he was misquoted in regards to these objects. Marx was quoted in popular articles as saying that the objects rotated by themselves in vibration-free display cases in the Klerksdorp Museum. Instead, Roelf Marx stated that they rotated because of the numerous earth tremors generated by underground blasting in local gold mining. Similarly, inquiries of scientists, who studied these objects, have found that the claims that NASA found these objects to be either perfectly balanced, unnatural, or puzzling are completely unsubstantiated[10].

Finally, published descriptions[2][5][6] of these spheres being harder than steel are meaningless in terms of Mohs scale of mineral hardness. Such descriptions are meaningless because depending on either the type of heat treatment, the type of steel alloy, and whether it is case-hardened or not, the hardness of steel can vary quite dramatically. Given that the type of steel is unspecified in these accounts, it is impossible to assign a specific hardness in terms of Mohs scale of mineral hardness from such an observation and determine whether it indicates them to be abnormally hard. There is a complete lack of any data published in any formal scientific paper, which substantiates that any of these spheres are abnormally hard as implied by such purely anecdotal accounts by non-geologists of these objects being harder than steel[10].


TLDR?


They're naturally occurring.

Reply #343 Posted: March 30, 2011, 10:30:21 am
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Nowhere in that passage does it say they are naturally occurring, nor does it address the apparent age of the formations.
The carbon dating is what interests me.

Reply #344 Posted: March 30, 2011, 10:44:13 am

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No, it doesn't say that in THAT passage, correct. It IS in the link. Ah, here:
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Geologists[7][8][9][10] agree that the Klerksdorp spheres originated as concretions, which formed in volcanic sediments, ash, or both, after they accumulated 3.0 billion years ago


The carbon dating doesn't interest me as it's useless for objects that age.



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Who here is aware of Kleksdorp spheres? Manufactured by intelligent hands, these things have been carbon dated at 3.8 Billion years old. 3.8 billion years ago, the earth wasn't even a solid mass.


Uh..."manufactured by intelligent hands"???
  carbon dated at 3.8 Billion years old" ???
 " The earth (sic) wasn't even a solid mass."???

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_dated_rocks


http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/spheres.html  " Forbidden Archeology"!!!  
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However, there is a complete lack of any evidence that either the nodules/spheres are artificial or that the grooves were cut prior to burial. As far as can be determined at this time, the spheres consist of pyrite nodules of metamorphic origin and goethite nodules formed by the weathering of the pyrite. Since the nodules are metamorphic in origin and, thus, formed by metamorphism while the enclosing strata were buried under kilometers of rock, the grooves, if artificial, had to have been cut after they had collected from the pyrophyllite during quarrying operations. As a result, the grooves are far less than 2.8 billions old. The nodules are clearly of natural origin and less than 2.8 billion years old.
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Reply #345 Posted: March 30, 2011, 10:58:36 am
Recycle your red poppies, paint them white, and wear them throughout the year.

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sadface

Reply #346 Posted: March 30, 2011, 11:03:38 am

lol @ console hate

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The shell is made from metal not naturally occurring on earth, but can be produced by metallurgy. These puppies not only predate human metallurgy, they also predate complex life on earth.

 
Wiki says they're made from iron oxide. Which is quite common.

Are they anything like this naturally occurring ones on mars?

Reply #347 Posted: March 30, 2011, 01:49:15 pm

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I see you've both spotted my deliberate mistake. Gold Star for both of you.

Reply #348 Posted: March 30, 2011, 01:59:17 pm

lol @ console hate

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I see you've both spotted my deliberate mistake. Gold Star for both of you.


Stars aren't made of Gold, they consist of mainly hydrogen and helium.

But gold is created at the end of the stars life time when it goes supernova, the incredible power of the explosion is enough to fuse lighter elements into heavier elements like iron, lead and gold.

This process is known as Supernova nucleosynthesis.


Next times someone asks you where you came from, tell them you came from Supernova nucleosynthesis.
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