Quote from: TofuEater;1265560So how DID they do it then?MAYBE when FBI agent Ken Williams filed his report that Muslims were having flight training http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0412042phoenix1.html, it didn't get ignored as claimed by the FBI, it was actually followed up. 2 flight schools go on record to say that indeed the FBI had been asking questions about some of the hijackers. http://www.prisonplanet.com/fbi_knew_terrorists_using_flight_schools.html.So for the sake of my argument lets say that happened. The FBI look into it and that there might be a plot to use aircraft's as a missile. They go to the CIA, as it involves foreign nationals and they do their thing and uncover the plot.Now the CIA would report to Cheney and he thinks, cool, this is the Pearl Harbour that we have been looking for. We can secure oil, use up a big stockpile of our weapons, making him even richer and get the numbskull George W re elected. I'm sure even the Americans would have got suspicious rigging 2 elections in a row.So they just keep tabs on the terrorists, but soon realize that their plan will not work as the World Trade centre is designed to withstand planes flying into them. They dispatch a squad of well trained black ops dudes to ensure the towers come down and possibly even help them via remote control to hit the buildings. Lots of pilots have stated it is extremely difficult to aim a plane at a building travelling at 800km/hr.The black op team sets up quarters in building 7, and carries out it's mission. They then detonate building 7 to cover up their tracks.[video]LD06SAf0p9A[/video] So you don't need a cast of thousands to carry this out. A few in government, a few top ranking CIA and FBI officials and the black op team. None of these would ever spill the story as they would be done for treason.Disclaimer.. I am not saying it did go down like this, just pointing out that you do not need thousands or even hundreds in on this for it to work. I do not believe that aliens have control of our government or our minds. I am not a conspiracy theorist( whatever that means). I like Grim just think the official story does not stack up( geddit) and have looked into it a little
So how DID they do it then?
How difficult would it have been for them to do what they did?Not very difficult at all. As long as you can fly straight and level and you know how the controls operate the aircraft and have some idea how the aircraft is going to respond, flying straight into a building is not difficult.Those aircraft were probably flying on autopilot and had the Flight Management Computer programmed. Knowing how to disengage that and reprogramme it to get from where they were to where they wanted to go would have been the most difficult thing.
Or maybe aliens do control our government. What hit the two buildings were alien missiles which had some kind of adaptive camouflage to make them look like planes.It's preposterous I know, but that's what they want you to think.
From your linkHow much training do you think these hijackers had?I would say the guy in the second 767 which hit the World Trade Centre was pretty experienced - unless it was luck. He didn't just fly at the building, he manoeuvred it to cause maximum damage.He put the aircraft into a 'slip', which is when you roll the aircraft wings but keep the nose aligned with the building and that requires you to roll the aircraft using one set of controls but keep the nose pointed in the same direction using the rudders. That's not something you can pick up from manuals.
That's not something you can pick up from manuals.
God just read the thinghttp://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
9:59. New York City, New York. The South Tower of the World Trade Center collapses to the ground in approximately 10 seconds. How approximate is that measurement?29 minutes later the North Tower follows suit, collapsing in approximately 10 seconds. How approximate is that measurement?
To put that quote in context, it had been asked earlier in the interview if you could learn to fly a plane solely from reading the manual.
I think you missed my point entirely, as I can't seem to decipher your reply. The interviewee is saying he was experienced compared to someone who had only read the aircraft manual.
Quote from: mattnz;1266052I think you missed my point entirely, as I can't seem to decipher your reply. The interviewee is saying he was experienced compared to someone who had only read the aircraft manual.I don't think you understood my explanation at all.What I was saying is that slipping an aircraft in that situation was probably inadvertent, regardless of the experience of the pilot.
They didn't have to takeoff either :>Quote from: Zarkov;1266066Quote from: mattnz;1266052I think you missed my point entirely, as I can't seem to decipher your reply. The interviewee is saying he was experienced compared to someone who had only read the aircraft manual.I don't think you understood my explanation at all.What I was saying is that slipping an aircraft in that situation was probably inadvertent, regardless of the experience of the pilot.So it was chance? Like it says in the original passage that you quoted. Probably why I missed your point.
So you don't need a cast of thousands to carry this out.
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Those aircraft were probably flying on autopilot and had the Flight Management Computer programmed. Knowing how to disengage that and reprogramme it to get from where they were to where they wanted to go would have been the most difficult thing.
Quote from: SteddieEddie;1265976So you don't need a cast of thousands to carry this out. Of course you do. There's no way you could truck a few tonnes of explosives into a building without anyone knowing about it. That's where the conspiracy falls down very quickly - there would be someone, somewhere who knows about it, if it occurred. And at some point, one (and it only takes ONE) person to have a crisis of conscience and decide to spill the beans.And don't give me the bollocks about them being popped off if they tried to tell the world, because the moment that happened the rest of them would spill the beans because they would know that's the only way they would ensure they stayed alive. Want further proof? Read up on some game theory sometime to figure out the scenario. The consipiracy theory doesn't fit any game theory, so therefore it cannot exist.
