Christchurch Earthquake

[bitchimom]

Listened to that documentary Bitchi, really well done I though.

cheers  :listening_headphone

I went to same school as Marlon - he always looked like a bloody bohemian muso.

yup, he still does... fits in well round Lyttelton!

[Growler]

GG scribe, managed to stay off the drugs long enough to make it!

[Ngati_Grim]

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.171263566282748.40926.132340030175102

Yep, it's fa(r)cebook, but some sobering images, and lots of space!

[Speakman]

i've been following this guy for a while now, some incredible images


still sucks that this is the only way we get to see what the hell is going on in our city though


still don't get why rugby journos and teams get to go through, but whatever

[Ngati_Grim]

...and Scribe!

[Pyromanik]

uh uh, uh uh, I don't know any body.

[Codex]

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THE BOX FACTORY

[Pyromanik]

Peaches and Cream.
Box factory.

OH THE LOLZ!

[bitchimom]

getting in before all the Masters/PhD students next year...

Survey on media use & communication methods over the last year in Canterbury
http://canterbury.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0N8koLaQgyEFjeY

Anyone who lives, or has lived, in Chch/Canty over the last year is invited to take this survey... serious survey for serious studies, so Chch/Canty folk only please. :pride:
Please feel free to post the link to fb/G+, email to friends/colleagues/whanau etc... the more responses I get, the more validity/meaning it has... which always pleases those who do the marking!

[Ngati_Grim]

Done, and shared.

[bitchimom]

tyvm ... lashings of extra ummmmm tofu for this man!

or a beer :very_drunk:

[Ngati_Grim]

They're not exclusive, you know

Chickpeas tonight.

[Ngati_Grim]

http://i.imgur.com/mWJ37.jpg

Lots of empty spaces

[Zarkov]

Looks like a big improvement.

Better still when they get that ugly hotel down.

[Ngati_Grim]

Looks like a big improvement.

haha that's like you versus your mum....

[zolteg]

Hey Bitchi.....

Have Tweeterzored your quizzy thang (lotsa #eqnz ers in my stream), but I'd be interested in seeing what you're asking - don't wanna do the whole thang in case my one set of invalid experiences skews the results....

[SteddieEddie]

http://i.imgur.com/mWJ37.jpg

Lots of empty spaces

Wow, that is very telling photo.

Your city is going to look very cool when they rebuild it

[Zarkov]

Wow, that is very telling photo.

Your city is going to look very cool when they rebuild it

There has to be an motive to build something.

Usually that motive is economic.

In Christchurchs case that doesn't apply in most of the CBD.

Some businesses will want to relocate back into the centre of the city, but most have either failed or are now in the suburbs.

Kind of like Detroit.

[Dr Woomanchu]

Disagree. If that happens, market value of the land will drop and new entrepreneurs will be in soon enough. In the short term it will be ugly, but in the long term it will sort itself out. My personal belief is that the less local and national governments distort the market with welfare for existing investors, the better long term outcomes we will have.

The rebuild is more likely to be a fail if what gets rebuilt is distorted by handouts.

[Speakman]

Bridge of Remembrance will be saved: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1109/S00377/bridge-of-remembrance-will-be-saved.htm

[Zarkov]

Disagree. If that happens, market value of the land will drop and new entrepreneurs will be in soon enough. In the short term it will be ugly, but in the long term it will sort itself out. My personal belief is that the less local and national governments distort the market with welfare for existing investors, the better long term outcomes we will have.

The rebuild is more likely to be a fail if what gets rebuilt is distorted by handouts.

What you say is true up to a point.

However, like most cities in NZ, retail and service businesses had already moved out to the malls in suburbia.

What remained, apart from Valentines and the banks, insurance cos etc, were low rent paying cafes, bars, and anything else the landlords could find to occupy the older low rise brick buildings that failed in such numbers during the earthquakes.

Since the population has declined in Christchurch, there's no economic reason to rebuild much of that floor space.


Take a look at Queen St,  Auckland; apart from the banks and big corporates, it's all noodle shops etc.

I never go there, and don't know anyone who does.

Who goes to the bank anymore?

If it fell over tomorrow, most of it would never be rebuilt.

[Growler]

Comparing Queen St to the Square/Strip etc in Chch..... totally diff kettle of fish old chum.

And from what I remember reading, the population drop was sweet fuck all to nothing compared to what was expected

[Dr Woomanchu]

There'll be a population boost once rebuild labour is imported. Also the CBD developed when Christchurch was much smaller. It's natural for peoples routine shopping and daily lives to be in clusters closer to where they live  ( which also helps alleviate traffic issues). I hope the CBD does struggle to attract large corporations back, and stops being the Central Business District, and starts being the Central Living District, so we get a mix of inner city residential, culture, recreation and boutique businesses, that feed into the arts precinct and Hagley Park

[Zarkov]

Comparing Queen St to the Square/Strip etc in Chch..... totally diff kettle of fish old chum.

And from what I remember reading, the population drop was sweet fuck all to nothing compared to what was expected

Queen St was called the golden mile, with the highest ground rents in the country.

But without any disasters etc, the retailers left town, leaving a lot of old buildings that rent for bugger all.

There's no compelling economic case to renovate them, for there are no tenants that could afford the higher rents you need to charge to recoup your investment.

Even though AKs population is soaring.

All the development is around Botany Downs, Westgate, Albany etc.

It's one of the reasons we'll never have a proper rail system based around the CBD, because we'll never need it.

And neither will Christchurch.

Your city's golden age has come and gone.

[bitchimom]

Hey Bitchi.....

Have Tweeterzored your quizzy thang (lotsa #eqnz ers in my stream), but I'd be interested in seeing what you're asking - don't wanna do the whole thang in case my one set of invalid experiences skews the results....

awesome, thx Zol
the questions are about media use of Cantabs over the last year: which media/communication methods worked or didn't, which ones they used to try & find out info about different things and other media/communication-y stuff. I've also got questions about length of time without power, location, emergency kit, transistor radio etc to see if some people/suburbs are more prepared these days. Mayor Bob reckons everyone's got an emergency kit now. I don't fink so... well, we don't (we're just lazy & we have most of that stuff around.... somewhere....)
And there's a part2 which has opportunities for longer answers/rants etc :welcoming:

I get the feeling there'll be heaps of this sort of stuff next year... I've applied for a couple of summer scholarships at UC, both are on EQ topics. I guess, if you can't beat 'em, study 'em! :playful: