Christchurch Treehouse of Awesome-Where everyone knows your name

[Obble]

I also love ICC.

[trololololo]

FYI
Sony and Samsung make their LCD panels at the same factory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-LCD

[Retardobot]

Went to my parents yesterday.

Dad bought a god awful 60" Vierra 3D TV. It's pathetic because he has it in his lounge (house has 2 lounges) instead of the family lounge.

[Codex]

yeah all packed up to take it in after work. I hope they just swap it on the spot x.x

[trololololo]

If your insurance company is involved thats not going to happen, remember what happened with my tv.

[Retardobot]

If your insurance company is involved thats not going to happen, remember what happened with my tv.

Doesn't insurance cover this sort of thing? Accidental breakage? I would contest it if you get told no...

[Codex]

havent got insurance, got a quote just before earthquake x.x

[trololololo]

I was meaning in terms of a nice simple swap, they would want to check it out to see if its repairable.

They will always take the cheapest option, I've had to deal with my insurance copy several times in the last year or so with my TV(once, it took about to months to get replacement panel) & laptop (several times, it's now onto its 5 motherboard)

Also
The earthquake killed my TV, EQC told me last week that they are going to pay out shortly. So i'm shopping for a new TV.

[Spork]

And here starts yet another week at work.

[DeeUnit]

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/PlasmaTVs+Monitors/PioneerTVs/ci.PDP-6020FD.Kuro?tab=B

We have this, supposedly top plasma screen out there atm. Fucking sex to watch. Picture quality destroys all the lcds/led tv's on display at harvey normans etc.

[mattnz]

I doubt you can say that objectively given the viewing conditions etc

[DeeUnit]

Google it.

[mattnz]

Sorry, thought you were trying to give an informed opinion, not regurgitating the internets. My bad.

[ChineseKiwi]

my olds just got a 55" sony, just happens to be the ex500 series.

I was totally under whelmed at its quality. I told them to get a series 6/7 samsung LCD or the new backlit LED for their room. Or to look at a LG. But no, they went for the biggest one they could afford, and now they aint happy with it.

Trust me it's set up right. I just wish you could inject ICC profiles into TVs would make life SOOOOOOOOOO much easier.

Is it calibrated?
I doubt it.
objective measurements don't lie:

Sony EX500 vs. Samsung 7 series LED model (under colours: Calibrated)

http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=10&ma1=16&mo1=847&p1=8399&ma2=36&mo2=896&p2=8737&ph=16

Compare other measurements as well and other TVs. You must calibrate ANY display device (TV, computer monitors, projectors)

Review + proper recommended calibration settings:

http://www.digitalversus.com/sony-bravia-kdl-40ex503-p364_8374_16.html

when properly calibrated, it offers the most accurate picture out of any TV for the price apart from the sony ex700 series and high-end Toshiba plasmas (see expensive). Wether you want the most accurate picture is another thing.

Anyway, for the lazy among us:

Image Quality: Expert Mode

To get as close as possible to the original quality of the content you're watching, we suggest you switch to Expert mode and set the backlighting to 3 to get brightness of 200 cd/mē. That removes the filters which attempt to artificially improve the image, and the colours take on a more natural look with a deltaE of 2.4. These settings also gave an excellent contrast ratio, which we measured at over 4000:1 with very deep blacks of 0.05 cd/mē. The last piece of excellent news is that the gamma curve gets back on track too.


 Average contrast ratio: 4032:1


When watching films, jerkiness is kept in check by Motionflow 100 Hz. However, we suggest that you leave it in Standard mode as the next level up introduces artefacts. Just like the W5500 and WE5 series TVs, upscaling SD sources to HD loses a little detail and adds a slight blur. Leave this task to your Blu-ray player or PS3, which will do a much better job. When you're showing a HD film though, the quality is impeccable. Watching Blu-ray discs is a real treat.

[Retardobot]

"trust me, it is setup right".

I think Growler knows a thing or two about calibrating monitors considering he is in the print business.

[mattnz]

I think CK knows a bit about the Google/Wiki business.

[Growler]

that site is your reference ?

http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=10&ma1=16&mo1=363&p1=4239&ma2=36&mo2=257&p2=3557&ph=18

What should I look for?

The image should be as sharp as possible and contain as much as detail as possible. The lines should be clearly spaced with no blurriness.

Samsung shits on the sony there, way sharper, better contrast.....

what next?

[ChineseKiwi]

And I've offered objective measurements = a strong case tbh.

[Retardobot]

I think CK knows a bit about the Google/Wiki business.

I neg raped you for that, dick.

[ChineseKiwi]

that site is your reference ?

http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=10&ma1=16&mo1=363&p1=4239&ma2=36&mo2=257&p2=3557&ph=18

What should I look for?

The image should be as sharp as possible and contain as much as detail as possible. The lines should be clearly spaced with no blurriness.

Samsung shits on the sony there, way sharper, better contrast.....

what next?

Lol, way to use different models. I'm talking aobut the ex500 series. nice poltician move.
In audio-visual stuff, no one brand's products are always better than another brands products, unless you digg the fanboism movement.
You thus compare models between brands.

[Growler]

not my fault the 55" aint on that site, prob cos it gets shat on by the competitors.

[ChineseKiwi]

not my fault the 55" aint on that site, prob cos it gets shat on by the competitors.

Models don't differ by screen size. Really. e.g. the 32" EX503 is exactly the same as the 55" ex503.
in computer monitors, the hp ZR22W is exactly the same as the hp zr24w. The dell U2311H is exactly the same as the dell U3011H apart from screen size.
The firmware matters a lot in TVs and tbh, a lot of audio visual equipment.

[Ngati_Grim]

Wether

Christchurch Treehouse of Awesome-Where everyone knows your name

Seriously, I love my CRT. Easy to calibrate (WTF? You mean you pay all that money AND you have to calibrate it?) and am glad that I have money left over for alcohol which I then proceed to drink and not care about what's on tv.

It's tough keeping up with the Joneses (Chans?).

[DeeUnit]

Sorry, thought you were trying to give an informed opinion, not regurgitating the internets. My bad.

Can't be fucked justifying it son, google it.

[Growler]

So CK, how do you calibrate your TV, please enlighten me.