Christchurch Treehouse of Awesome-Where everyone knows your name

[Emrico1]

yikes dude

[toofast]

yay for being broke

i cant afford rent next week, cant find a job and WINZ are fucking me around...

Go to  temp agency. If you are competent, they can generally get you a job within a day, after you properly register with them. Assuming you are willing to work any job. Rather than be one of those people who say they can't find work, because they aren't willing to do half the jobs available. Those people piss me off to no end.

[Who_ate_my_rice]

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13191495  

lol shits crazy son

[Speakman]

Go to  temp agency. If you are competent, they can generally get you a job within a day, after you properly register with them.

the problem with this in his case is CHCH is broken. theres very little at the moment

[Retardobot]

He's talking about me.

You see, I'm horrible scum for not wanting to work the hours of 12am to 8am every day in a warehouse.

[toofast]

the problem with this in his case is CHCH is broken. theres very little at the moment

Oh right, he is in CHCH. Didn't realise. Then i guess he is in a tough situation.

Also rii, wasn't aimed at anyone, just a general POV of mine, because i know a lot of people who complain about how hard it is to find work, despite happily turning down/not bothering with jobs they think are below them.

[Tandoori]

He's talking about me.

You see, I'm horrible scum for not wanting to work the hours of 12am to 8am every day in a warehouse.

You are if the opportunity is available but you opt for the dole instead.

Nobody is too good for a bit of hard work, especially the unemployed.

[vedds]

Nope, not I.

Here be doppelgangers.

Welcome to ChCh. Hope you enjoy your stay

Hmmmmm suspicious.....
 

AEWSOME!

Not as good as Bacon day, but very close!

http://www.steakandbjday.com/

 
W00T!!!! its on my birthday!

[BeNZene]

You are if the opportunity is available but you opt for the dole instead.

Nobody is too good for a bit of hard work, especially the unemployed.

If he is skilled at something else, is it really a good idea (for society) for him be doing manual labour that someone without skills could do?  Particularly when working midnight - 8am would make a job interview (to get a job he's better suited to) pretty hard.  What kind of impression will you make at a 9am or 10am job interview when you've been up that long?

Give him some time and he may find a job which he is better suited to, which will probably involve more money (therefore, more tax) and more job satisfaction.  Win Win.

[Retardobot]

You are if the opportunity is available but you opt for the dole instead.

Nobody is too good for a bit of hard work, especially the unemployed.

Shot bro, drugs and booze aye.

[Pyromanik]

Go to  temp agency. If you are competent, they can generally get you a job within a day, after you properly register with them. Assuming you are willing to work any job. Rather than be one of those people who say they can't find work, because they aren't willing to do half the jobs available. Those people piss me off to no end.

Depends on your situation. No one wants to trap themselves outside their career. So why risk it when you're not THAT desperate?
People who only look at one side of a situation piss me off to no end.

[toofast]

Depends on your situation. No one wants to trap themselves outside their career. So why risk it when you're not THAT desperate?
People who only look at one side of a situation piss me off to no end.

Temp job. As in you aren't locked into the job, and you can literally leave whenever you want.

Anyway my response was just a tip for catalyst, if he needed to find a job fast. I wasn't really commenting on whether going on the unemployment benefit was a valid choice, vs getting a job.

[Pyromanik]

Yep, that's fair enough, but you also forget that physical labour isn't so great when you have physical disabilities.

[Tandoori]

If he is skilled at something else, is it really a good idea (for society) for him be doing manual labour that someone without skills could do?  Particularly when working midnight - 8am would make a job interview (to get a job he's better suited to) pretty hard.  What kind of impression will you make at a 9am or 10am job interview when you've been up that long?

Give him some time and he may find a job which he is better suited to, which will probably involve more money (therefore, more tax) and more job satisfaction.  Win Win.

Yeah but it's not that hard to find a bit of casual work with flexbility in the hours you do - while you're looking for something more appropriate.

[toofast]

Yep, that's fair enough, but you also forget that physical labour isn't so great when you have physical disabilities.

 
Well it doesn't have to be a physical job. I mean its not hard to pick up admin/database jobs. You have to be competent with word, excel etc, but assuming you can't take a physical job, i am sure you can make the effort to learn. Even past manual labour/factory jobs (which i must say aren't even that hard, in terms of lifting etc, since everything is on pallets, so you are rarely lifting something over 10kg) and admin jobs, there are a lot of other things you can do. They dont just go you need job, we have job, done. They actually take the time to see what you are suited for etc.

Also whats this 12am to 8am? You rarely find (atleast in my experience), a place that wants you to work those hours. Why? Because thats actually one of the best shifts. You get paid the most, do the less hours, suits most people who need the day free (look after kids, work second job etc). They are extremely popular. Most the time, you will get a day shift (8am to 4pm), which you can get off, if you need to go to a job interview (the concept of the a temp agency, is if you can't work, they should easily be able to find someone else to take your place). I mean obviously you need to be eager to work, because no employer is going to want to keep on someone, who keeps skipping days off work.

[Pyromanik]

Well it doesn't have to be a physical job. I mean its not hard to pick up admin/database jobs. You have to be competent with word, excel etc, but assuming you can't take a physical job, i am sure you can make the effort to learn. Even past manual labour/factory jobs (which i must say aren't even that hard, in terms of lifting etc, since everything is on pallets, so you are rarely lifting something over 10kg) and admin jobs, there are a lot of other things you can do. They dont just go you need job, we have job, done. They actually take the time to see what you are suited for etc.

Also whats this 12am to 8am? You rarely find (atleast in my experience), a place that wants you to work those hours. Why? Because thats actually one of the best shifts. You get paid the most, do the less hours, suits most people who need the day free (look after kids, work second job etc). They are extremely popular. Most the time, you will get a day shift (8am to 4pm), which you can get off, if you need to go to a job interview (the concept of the a temp agency, is if you can't work, they should easily be able to find someone else to take your place). I mean obviously you need to be eager to work, because no employer is going to want to keep on someone, who keeps skipping days off work.

Wow, you're pretty opinionated about this whole employment market thing huh.
Maybe you should work in a recruitment agency.

[Tandoori]

For the record, I don't want anything thinking I'm targeting anybody here.

I come from a big family, and know a fair few drop-kicks, and frankly I see far too many people my age (and older too I spose) who just put their hands out far too fucking quick. People seem to forget that NZ has a cushy welfare system (not as cushy as members of the ACT caucus propagate), and we spend more than we can actually afford on benefits (esp. SuperAnnuation).
Given that hardwork was a part of growing up in a big whanau, and not the wealthiest, I just get frustrated when people aren't really aware of how easy they've got it.

[Catalyst]

lol what i have i started here

i have a job interview tomorrow afternoon ! fuck yeah!
also, at the temp job thing, I tried but all they had was physical labor stuff which i cant really do as my knee is fucked

edit, this afternoon :/

[Dr Woomanchu]

fwiw I'm with Hori and toofast 100% on this one.  No-one owes you a living

[nick247]

You make the decision and that decision is best for you.
If you aren't that desperate then you can wait, but you won't have a lot of sympathy from anyone (not that anyone here seems to be asking for sympathy)

If you are desperate then be prepared to do something about it, because as mentioned, there are options.

In other words, i hate the type of people that choose to do something and then complain about it.
(which noone here is really doing)

[toofast]

Wow, you're pretty opinionated about this whole employment market thing huh.
Maybe you should work in a recruitment agency.

Not really opinionated, more just trying to show a lot of the traditional excuses for why you can't get a job outside your field (can't do physical work, can't work night shifts etc) fall down.  Like woo says, society doesn't owe you anything.

[Emrico1]

Rii is busting his arse trying to get a meaningful job in an area he's qualified.
Of all the thousands he'll contribute in taxes, you'd hope just a little of that could go to some down time finding another job. Rii has been giving a lot to this 'society' you speak of.
There are plenty of people willing to do the menial and shift work, the agencies just want a cut in a hurry from the names in front of them.

[Ngati_Grim]

.  Like woo says, society doesn't owe you anything.

...and that, I contest, is one of the chief problems with our 'society'.

[DeeUnit]

...and that, I contest, is one of the chief problems with our 'society'.

Really?


I disagree, there are about 6 other 'chief' problems I can think off the top of my head that contribute more problems to our society than that single thought process.

[Retardobot]

It appears the backlash has become worse than the cause for the backlash.

I thought I would share the comical trials and tribulations that come from trying to sign up to WINZ. And as a result I get multiple posters flexing their ivory dick muscles trying to tell me I have no place to complain about my current situation, that I should strap on the usual kiwi bloke attitude that seems to do so much for this country and "man up" or "take a concrete pill". I have not once complained about my current unemployment, I don't blame anyone but myself, I understand that I can take a job as a shit shoveler for 8hrs a day and earn minimum wage while taking fire laced orders from a boss who cares nothing for his employers, only productivity.

It's my decision that I do my best to try and maintain my goals for my career and doing that while picking fruit, packing boxes or doing shift work from 12am til the early hours of the day is not conducive to what I am trying to accomplish.

I haven't asked for or expected your sympathy for even a moment, so you can carry on patting each other on the back for what you believe to be the right course of action just because a few of you believe it, but I am confident in what I am doing and I'm doing it to the best of my ability.

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