Topic: Japanese Earthquake! 8.9 - 24km* deep

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Quote from: Ngati_Grim;1368921
Hmmm, Mixed Oxide fuel. Oh yeah, safe as houses. Nothing to worry about, move along....

Do you have some kind of aversion to nuclear power?

Reply #250 Posted: March 16, 2011, 03:27:38 pm

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Yes I had read that when you posted it, but i still find it amazing that something designed 50 years ago is holding up so well under great duress.

Edit, must not forget the brave technicians that are staying on the job and fixing the problems, true heroes. I'd be running for the hills

Makes you realize how well these plants are designed. The one in trouble is a 2nd generation plant, the 4th gen ones must be incredible

Brave technicians have been evacuated.

Reply #251 Posted: March 16, 2011, 04:26:55 pm

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Do you have some kind of aversion to nuclear power?

Did you even read about it?

Reply #252 Posted: March 16, 2011, 05:31:33 pm
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Did you even read about it?

Read about nuclear power? Yes, lots of times.

Reply #253 Posted: March 16, 2011, 05:48:37 pm

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Can you like, throw up a little blurb below the links on your little link wall there?

I would rather know a little something about what i'm clicking on. I see that as 10 random news links.

Reply #254 Posted: March 16, 2011, 05:56:06 pm
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

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Hardout, take the slanted out of the writing and put a summary in your own words please.


Japan will be alright.

Reply #255 Posted: March 16, 2011, 10:00:48 pm
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Without any sort of pretense to knowing shit from clay, why are they not just dropping shedloads of sand & concrete onto the reactor buildings, like they did at Chernobyl after the event, BEFORE it gets worse..?  Surely there's no real hope of salvage, just cut yer losses & run.....

Reply #256 Posted: March 16, 2011, 10:35:54 pm

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just a guess but couldn't it be about containment under the reactor as well as on top of it??? but yeah bury that shit under miles of shit but is there any risk of it seeping into the soil????

Reply #257 Posted: March 16, 2011, 11:03:34 pm

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Without any sort of pretense to knowing $#@! from clay, why are they not just dropping shedloads of sand & concrete onto the reactor buildings, like they did at Chernobyl after the event, BEFORE it gets worse..?  Surely there's no real hope of salvage, just cut yer losses & run.....


http://morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/20...lear-reactors/

Read it - it isn't a huge read and it isn't highly technical, the only reason I haven't posted bits of it is you need the whole thing to get the picture

Reply #258 Posted: March 17, 2011, 01:16:21 am

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My concern with nuclear power is when it is built on an active margin....a plate boundary no less.
It's a matter of when,not if.

Reply #259 Posted: March 17, 2011, 08:03:41 am
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Why didn't they build tsunami Walls around the diesel generators, or put them in underground bunkers?

Everything would have been fine if the Generators weren't destroyed by the tsunami.


And I would know, I've dealt with many nuclear meltdowns in my time.

Reply #260 Posted: March 17, 2011, 08:11:32 am
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Why didn't they build tsunami Walls around the diesel generators, or put them in underground bunkers?

I think they had both of those in place. The buildings were built to withstand an 8.x jolt, not a 9.0, so personally I think the engineers that designed them deserve a pat of the back for their efforts.

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I read somewhere the tsunami waves that hit the plant were 6m+ which is horrendously powerful (will be interested to hear exactly how big they were when solid information emerges)

 Had you told me a tsunami of that magnitude hit a nuclear plant on the coast after a 8.9 earthquake before this disaster I would have expected to see a reactor core floating away let alone news that some diesel generators were fucked

Reply #262 Posted: March 17, 2011, 08:54:26 am

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don't forget they have upgraded the quake to a 9.0 now.

Reply #263 Posted: March 17, 2011, 10:15:59 am

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Right this link may need to go in the OP

http://morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors/

Before posting about meltdowns and explosions and the release of lethal radioactive isotopes into the air please read it people


Except he's not a nuclear physicist, is he?

http://mobile.salon.com/politics/war_room/2011/03/15/josef_oehmen_nuclear_not_worried_viral/index.html


Also: Japanese Quake Map: http://www.japanquakemap.com/




http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=134600420
Last Edit: March 17, 2011, 11:43:43 am by Ngati_Grim

Reply #264 Posted: March 17, 2011, 11:40:19 am
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Tsunami propagation throughout the Pacific:

http://www.youtube.com/user/NOAAPMEL?feature=mhum#p/c/4/Lo5uH1UJF4A

Damn, lost my embedding mojo :/
Last Edit: March 17, 2011, 12:58:15 pm by Ngati_Grim

Reply #265 Posted: March 17, 2011, 12:55:35 pm
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Reply #266 Posted: March 17, 2011, 02:14:18 pm

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Except he's not a nuclear physicist, is he?

http://mobile.salon.com/politics/war_room/2011/03/15/josef_oehmen_nuclear_not_worried_viral/index.html

 
Neither is that guy.


I'll just listen to what the official engineers have to say about it.

Reply #267 Posted: March 17, 2011, 02:47:55 pm

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Neither is that guy.


I'll just listen to what the official engineers have to say about it.

No need to worry Spacemonkey.

In my official engineering capacity, I can assure you that you're in no danger.

Tokyo is 8870 km away.

Reply #268 Posted: March 17, 2011, 04:38:18 pm

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No need to worry Spacemonkey.

In my official engineering capacity, I can assure you that you're in no danger.

Tokyo is 8870 km away.

But Ming the Merciless' nuclear powered Death Ray has a greater range then that. If it accidentally activated, we would all be in danger.

Reply #269 Posted: March 17, 2011, 04:50:23 pm

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But Ming the Merciless' nuclear powered Death Ray has a greater range then that. If it accidentally activated, we would all be in danger.

If it accidentally exploded we would.

Reply #270 Posted: March 17, 2011, 05:17:52 pm

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Neither is that guy.


I'll just listen to what the official engineers have to say about it.

You do that. For me its crack pot conspiracy theorist or gtfo.

Reply #271 Posted: March 17, 2011, 07:23:09 pm

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Except he's not a nuclear physicist, is he?


You have my profuse apologies, here is the version of that blog updated and maintained by the MIT department of nuclear science and engineering

http://mitnse.com/

Reply #272 Posted: March 17, 2011, 09:33:23 pm

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This is a MUST WATCH - Gotta love the Japanese



Reply #273 Posted: March 19, 2011, 12:52:09 am

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^My mind is literally blown. I now, lay dead in a pile of my own exploded head parts.
Took me half the movie to realise nuclear boy was a metaphor.

Reply #274 Posted: March 19, 2011, 07:40:42 am