Topic: Megaupload shitdown

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Quote from: pablo d;1464006
does it make any tangible difference to you, as a user?

While that's not really the point of the court case at all, I will say yes it does have a huge difference and I have touched on this earlier.

Youtube actively takes down pirated material using automated software to detected copywrited music and footage and also quickly takes down material at the request of copywrite holders.
It also doesn't hide search results for copywritted material to make it harder for stakeholders to find and request take-downs.
These actions combined make youtube a much less favourable place to share and view pirated materials so as a general user I am more inclined not to engage in pirate activity on the site.

Reply #125 Posted: January 25, 2012, 02:01:19 pm

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While that's not really the point of the court case at all, I will say yes it does have a huge difference and I have touched on this earlier.

Youtube actively takes down pirated material using automated software to detected copywrited music and footage and also quickly takes down material at the request of copywrite holders.
It also doesn't hide search results for copywritted material to make it harder for stakeholders to find and request take-downs.
These actions combined make youtube a much less favourable place to share and view pirated materials so as a general user I am more inclined not to engage in pirate activity on the site.

But now we're back to the point of distinguishing between wholesale pirating (e.g. full-length blockbuster movies) and seemingly innocuous copyright violation (e.g. small tv clips/music videos etc). It's hypocritical to disdain one when you partake of the other, no? It's just a matter of degrees.

Reply #126 Posted: January 25, 2012, 02:37:13 pm

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No we aren't.
It's not even about the user its about the sites running this shit.
What the hell does the hypocrisy of the end user have to do with anything?
The users actions don't define the company running the site, the actions of the companies in response to the users does.

Reply #127 Posted: January 25, 2012, 02:48:52 pm

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No we aren't.


Yes we are.


Reply #128 Posted: January 25, 2012, 02:56:19 pm

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Quote from: Bell;1464016
No we aren't.
It's not even about the user its about the sites running this $#@!.
What the hell does the hypocrisy of the end user have to do with anything?
The users actions don't define the company running the site, the actions of the companies in response to the users does.


well not really - Copyright infringement is copyright infringement...

unless of course you want to concede that some copyright infringement for personal/non profit use isn't a bad thing....

Reply #129 Posted: January 25, 2012, 03:38:51 pm

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Thread title is still awesome.

Reply #130 Posted: January 25, 2012, 03:41:17 pm



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Title is good, but actual content makes my head hurt.


He was in the wrong, bonafied by him having a personality of a fuckwit.


Case closed.

Reply #131 Posted: January 25, 2012, 04:10:01 pm
I got 99 problems but bein\' a bitch ain\'t one.

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well not really - Copyright infringement is copyright infringement...

unless of course you want to concede that some copyright infringement for personal/non profit use isn't a bad thing....

Bunch of fucking dribble, learn to read.

Reply #132 Posted: January 25, 2012, 04:15:24 pm

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Bunch of $#@!ing dribble, learn to read.

Thats basically what you have said the whole time, its ok to pirate and have copyrighted material as long as profit isnt intended, like you say Youtube is,

Reply #133 Posted: January 25, 2012, 05:01:34 pm

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I still goto cinemas to watch movies and buy Kiwi music, I'm not going to purchase for a second time my earlier collection of music which is all on CD or cassette tapes that aren't able to be ripped to 320 MP3. I would however would still rather pay for something like pandora or Netflix if it was unmetered content. It's becoming a pain in the arse having to download something again just to get a HD version or digital audio file which is compatible with my phone or anything else from the last decade. As a student I can't afford every movie, book, game, application or song that is released, I used to borrow physical copies and give them back but I have to resort to unofficial means to rip content off their device. I can borrow a book from the library, why the hell isn't there a similar paid option for digital versions?! Seems the real dinosaurs are in Hollywood

Reply #134 Posted: January 25, 2012, 10:30:36 pm

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Thats basically what you have said the whole time, its ok to pirate and have copyrighted material as long as profit isnt intended, like you say Youtube is,

Shut up, you are embarrassing yourself

Reply #135 Posted: January 26, 2012, 02:53:24 pm

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Nobody going to mention the youtube viacom thing?

Reply #136 Posted: January 26, 2012, 06:24:35 pm

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Yes, I saw what I did there before anyone comments!

Reply #137 Posted: January 27, 2012, 02:46:18 am

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Sooner than you think. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Reply #138 Posted: January 27, 2012, 08:22:54 pm

lol @ console hate

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lol, Touche!

Reply #139 Posted: January 27, 2012, 08:33:21 pm

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Quote from: O-L-W-A-G;1464105
OH GOD WORDS

The price of getting data across our border and/or around this tiny country has stopped the likes of Netflix in their tracks. Literally.

Ninja edit: people have shown time and again that they are happy to pay for media provided the delivery method is efficient and convenient.
Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 08:52:28 pm by Daddy Clin

Reply #140 Posted: January 27, 2012, 08:50:25 pm

lol @ console hate

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Quote from: Daddy Clin;1464626
The price of getting data across our border and/or around this tiny country has stopped the likes of Netflix in their tracks. Literally.

That and our thickheaded politicians who are pushing anti-file sharing but have no idea what Netflix is.

Reply #141 Posted: January 27, 2012, 09:08:57 pm



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Has anyone had an infringement notice yet? Someone who isn't me even went to the point of renting a seedbox and joining private trackers, but this person has used tpb on many a lazy occasion and heard nothing. Calm before the storm? The persecuted companies that don't live week to week like the majority of people can afford to wait until people get lax to maximise the profit of litigation I suppose.

Reply #142 Posted: January 27, 2012, 09:27:15 pm

lol @ console hate

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Was a big thread about it over on geekzone, last I seen no one on their forums had had a notice. But a few people that worked for various ISP's had handed out notices, for a Rhianna song or something.

Reply #143 Posted: January 27, 2012, 11:33:51 pm

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Geekzone is a really poor cross section of the general online community though. They're a really straight laced, starchy crew. Guys in the industry, professionals etc etc. A good community, don't get me wrong, but certainly not a crowd that advocate grey-hat practices.

Reply #144 Posted: January 28, 2012, 12:04:29 am

lol @ console hate

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for a Rhianna song or something.

That's just embarrasing.

Reply #145 Posted: January 28, 2012, 08:50:42 am
Everyone needs more Bruce Campbell.

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If you are taking basic precautions, i would be surprised if you got caught. Using publics is however a surefire way to atleast put yourself in the radar.

Reply #146 Posted: January 28, 2012, 08:51:15 am

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Just another reach around this government does for the states.

@DDClin: Even if there was servers in ozie it would increase the speed and lower cost

Reply #147 Posted: January 28, 2012, 04:26:36 pm

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Reply #148 Posted: January 31, 2012, 09:29:35 am

lol @ console hate

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MegaUpload users look into suing US over lost files
By Jared Newman | Friday, January 27 2012Claim the sudden closure of the website is unjustified and completely disproportionate.
Share  Tweet inShare0When the U.S. Department of Justice shut down MegaUpload and sued its operators for copyright infringement last week, users who were storing files legally on the site became collateral damage. Now, some of them are looking to sue the government over lost data, TorrentFreak reports.


The counterattack is being led by the Pirates of Catalonia in collaboration with Pirate Parties International - overseas political groups who oppose harsh laws against copyright infringement.

"The widespread damage caused by the sudden closure of Megaupload is unjustified and completely disproportionate to the aim intended," a posting on the Pirates of Catalonia Website says. The group has created a form where users can register their complaints, and plans to "facilitate submission of complaints against the US authorities in as many countries as possible, to ensure a positive and just result."
At the moment, however, it's not clear what legal basis users might have for lawsuits. The only specific statutes the Pirates of Catalonia mention are Articles 197 and 198 in the Spanish Penal Code, which govern the misappropriation of personal data. Other than that, the group only says it is investigating "potential breaches of law."

Furthermore, Megaupload's terms of service stated that users who stored data on the site did so at their own risk, so users may have a tough time arguing that the U.S. government is liable for lost data. (Most online file sharing sites cover themselves in this manner, which is why putting all your eggs in one online basket isn't a great idea.) Filing complaints may be comforting for MegaUpload's former users, but doing so isn't likely to help return what was lost.


Reply #149 Posted: January 31, 2012, 10:41:32 am