KONY 2012

[Munchie]

I like how people are coming together to catch this KONY asswipe, yet the America people aren’t doing anything to stop the corruption of their own government despite there being plenty of documentaries to show the facts.

Also America won’t send in people to kill KONY unless they benefit somehow. It’s all talk and no show with politics.

[swindle]

I like how people are coming together to catch this KONY asswipe, yet the America people aren’t doing anything to stop the corruption of their own government despite there being plenty of documentaries to show the facts.

What is with people and this random point jumping, from one thing to another for no apparent reason?

You're as bad as OLWAG.

Listen to yourself - "I like how people are coming together to catch this KONY asswipe" then suddenly, a wild topic jump appears - "yet the America people aren’t doing anything to stop the corruption of their own government despite there being plenty of documentaries to show the facts."

lol?

Wtf are you even talking about love. And no, don't start showing me bullshit about American corruption, because yes, we all know, we all get it.

Just re-evaluate what you said. Think for a minute.

[dirtyape]

I read that as "Why do americans think that they should be fixing other peoples shit when they could be fixing their own shit." Is that not how it was intended?

[swindle]

Then maybe she should have said that in the first place.

In any case, not entirely relevant. I assumed this thread about KONY was a thread about KONY. American corruption is a whole issue on its own?

Or are we just rolling a bunch of issues into a few sentences now? Its like a cool kids thing?

[Bell]

So by that reasoning UN peace keepers should never be used unless corruption is non existent in the member states?

[Bell]

Also America won’t send in people to kill KONY unless they benefit somehow. It’s all talk and no show with politics.

Well they aren't asking to send in people to kill Kony at all.
They are asking for the US advisers to help the Ugandan army capture Kony.

If Obama believes a shitload of Gen-Y get out voting for him by promising to put more resources into finding this guy, he will fucking do it.
When young people vote in America they can be the deciding factor so if this does continue to gather momentum I wouldn't be surprised if you hear Obama pledge support.
That would be a pretty inspiring outcome in my opinion.
And it might show some people that you can do something within the political system without massive amounts of money and lobbyists.

[O-L-W-A-G]

Its like a cool kids thing?

Defiantly.

[Munchie]

I read that as "Why do americans think that they should be fixing other peoples shit when they could be fixing their own shit." Is that not how it was intended?

You got it XD

My KONY bracelets are on the way because qu1cks and I are participating after all and have donated.

[BerG]

We should send all our prisoners to Uganda to do volunteer work at schools.

Right before America invades.

[Oddball]

After doing some 'looking into it' and forming my own opinion, I've come to this conclusion:

Killing / capturing Kony wont make ANY difference to the lives of people in Urganda (even if Kony WAS in Urganda, which KONY 2012 conveniently left out) because even if he dies it wont stop the LRA, they aren't going to conclude what they're doing and send the children home. Who're they kidding?

As has been pointed out, and I'm agreeing with, there are organizations better suited to help people in Urganda than IC. Actually I'd take it further and say IC have no clue what they're doing beyond paying their own salaries and fooling young Americans; as far as actually helping Urganda goes, no clue at all.

And I'm not going to donate a damned cent to IC because it wont make a difference to people who need the help. That said, if I was a ninja, I'd totally sort things out myself! But I'm not, nor can I fund an army (or a ninja!), so I'll accept the fact that there's absolutely way for me to make a difference through IC and go ahead and say their companies barely more than a scam.

That's MY opinion.

[dirtyape]

I think this is more an experiment into exploiting the good nature of people via a viral social media campaign. Whether it is also so the yanks can establish a base of operations in Uganda or not remains to be seen, it would be naive to think that this was not a possible motive however. If they were, would it be a good place for a military base? It's land locked, so would seem like a bad place to start.

[Munchie]

Well I don't feel ripped off donating $5 lol.

[dirtyape]

true, $5 is of little concern to anyone. But if 24 million people donate $5 then that could buy a lot of guns. Or maybe a tank or something. I'm still trying to work out if it's propaganda. I mean they quote Kony as saying something like once he found out the GREAT POWER of america was after him he was changing tactics. Really? That's a bit hard to swallow

[Munchie]

Only time will tell.

[Bell]

true, $5 is of little concern to anyone. But if 24 million people donate $5 then that could buy a lot of guns. Or maybe a tank or something. I'm still trying to work out if it's propaganda. I mean they quote Kony as saying something like once he found out the GREAT POWER of america was after him he was changing tactics. Really? That's a bit hard to swallow

How so, if I was a milita leader and heard the US was providing adviser support and equipment to help find me I'm pretty sure I'd take notice.

And oddball I specifically remember seeing an animated part of that movie that showed that Kony had moved into the congo region and the voice over even said as much.
I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying they are misleading people on that part.
I mean yes take the movie as a whole and if you weren't paying attention maybe you would think he was still in Uganda but I don't think they really covered it up.
I specifically remember taking in the fact that he was in other areas after finishing watching that movie, if you guys thought otherwise I guess that is a valid communication critisim but I think people are blowing that part way out of proportion.

Fact is the US advisers are deployed in the whole region not just Uganda (go look it up) and IC wants to keep them there.
That really isn't that controversial IMO.

And a pretty good scam if it is one, first build a bunch of schools and do community projects in Uganda for years spend thousands of hours advocating for your cause.
Then make awareness raising videos that will of course go viral and spend the majority of your video talking mostly about awareness raising and then offer for people to buy a pack of posters and stuff for $20 and post it to them and reap the immense rewards (after costs of course).
Fuck if that's scamming then I hope more people do it.

*edit
I just found that part at minute 15, yes its very short so as I said a valid critisim about how they communicated that part I can see why its caused a bit of confusion but I don't think there was sinister intent.

[dirtyape]

Still, it seems unlikely that he would honour his enemy so. I find it out of character.

[Munchie]

Everything is sinister! be afraid, be very afraid wooowooowooo O.O

[hoodieblanket]

*edit
I just found that part at minute 15, yes its very short so as I said a valid critisim about how they communicated that part I can see why its caused a bit of confusion but I don't think there was sinister intent.

not sure if sinister but they came out and said that it was intended.

[Bell]

They came out and said they intended people to think he was in Uganda and not in the congo?

[dirtyape]

I think i've lost interest in all this now lol

[hoodieblanket]

They came out and said they intended people to think he was in Uganda and not in the congo?

not in those specific words but when questioned they said they intended for the video to spark interest over anything. So they wanted people to think this a "now" thing even though the uganda govt even stated that this is no longer the case for them. (i imagine they tried to play out some real facts under mumbled breathe, in order to create the most response)

[Emrico1]

They clearly showed him (Kony) moving into the congo. They just wanna curb stomp the mother f&*^ker now.

[Tiwaking!]

After doing some 'looking into it' and forming my own opinion, I've come to this conclusion:

I wasted 15 minutes watching that video until the bullshit started leaking out the sides of the screen and I had to stop.

Unfortunately my YouTube feed is flooded with Kony related videos now. Thankfully they are from thoughtful people who, like Oddball, have come to their own conclusion.

[Zarkov]

Tiwa.

He knows bullshit when he sees it.

[BerG]

Kony is so last week.