Topic: Gareth Morgan and Cats

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Normally I don't care about the News, half of it is crap I don't care about, the other half is crap I have no control over and thus don't care about.

However:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10860618

and

http://garethsworld.com/catstogo/#section-n0

I could write an entire page of derogatory and insulting remarks about this person. But I shall restrain.

I love my cat - woe betide anyone who would take my cat from me.

Posted: January 22, 2013, 06:27:55 pm

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This guy is hilarious.


Yes they are nature's adorable little murder machines.
But it's not exactly like they drive over to their mates place and carpool out to the native forests to go on a rampage and then be back in time for morning biscuits.

It's feral cats that one should worry about.
The people who should not replace their pet cat are the ones who shouldn't have a pet cat in the first place. Because they either don't look after it, or didn't want to look after it, or dumped a box of kittens in a rest area on a state highway, or suchlike.
Last Edit: January 22, 2013, 06:34:39 pm by Pyromanik

Reply #1 Posted: January 22, 2013, 06:29:44 pm
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Hate cats.

Good Guy Gareth.

Reply #2 Posted: January 22, 2013, 06:30:30 pm



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I have my burlap sacks ready, wheres the nearest river?

Reply #3 Posted: January 22, 2013, 06:35:50 pm
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i had kinda hope speakman had died, what a pity

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bhahahaha, sound argument.
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If they are not bringing home native birds it’s because there are none around left to kill.

OR BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE AUCKLAND CBD.

Who cleared out the space to live in the middle of a city?
Who burnt away all the natrual habitat for much of the endemic fauna?
Who hunted many of the birds to near or complete extinction?

urhh, why are there no native birds in my city?
BECAUSE THE HUMANS ATE THEM ALL.



Registering and chipping cats is fine. No issue there. But blanket saying "CATS SHOULD BE EXTINCT" is a bit stupid.

Reply #4 Posted: January 22, 2013, 06:39:00 pm
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I agree with Gareth

I kill cats all the time at my parents place, because they are wild/used to be someones cat. They actually travel from towns in the Wairarapa, across farmland and go live in the Aorangi national park because of the birds.

That and the fact that we work in the same building, I see him everyday and we have chats in the elevator.

Reply #5 Posted: January 22, 2013, 06:51:43 pm

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Lets get rid of all the cats.

If you want a cat, you can have a small dog.

If you still want a cat, you can move to Australia.
Last Edit: January 22, 2013, 07:54:25 pm by kookynic

Reply #6 Posted: January 22, 2013, 06:57:05 pm

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Western Australia, as of Nov 2013, will have strict laws against owning cats.

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Under the Cat Act, cats must be sterilised, microchipped and registered with local government.

Which I think is fucking awesome.

Reply #7 Posted: January 22, 2013, 07:03:27 pm



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^ Totaly Agree

I love my cats, but people need to control their cats, and not let them have cat babies.


My cat likes to play with rats and eats their heads.

Reply #8 Posted: January 22, 2013, 07:40:56 pm

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Western Australia, as of Nov 2013, will have strict laws against owning cats.



Which I think is fucking awesome.

that is responsible pet ownership - I 100% support that

Reply #9 Posted: January 22, 2013, 07:44:46 pm

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Around here cats piss all over the sides of the house and shit in the garden. I hiss at them when I see them and try to shoot them with a water gun.

Reply #10 Posted: January 22, 2013, 07:52:28 pm

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Around here I piss all over the sides of the house and shit in the garden. I hiss at them when I see them and try to shoot them with my 'water gun'.


fixed

Reply #11 Posted: January 22, 2013, 07:55:36 pm

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We had some discourse on this back in August 2012 in the CHCH treehouse

From then:

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At the expense of ruffling the feathers of cat-owners, I would fully support moves to phase-out domestic cat ownership (generationally) in New Zealand.

Kill a cat, save ten birds.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/7470900/Stewart-Island-moggies-may-get-marching-orders

Pretty much this, on a national basis.

There's such lax regulation of domestic cat ownership in this country, but even with microchips and strict management in place by the owners - cats have a natural propensity to prey. I don't know if you can actually mitigate that in an effective way* - apart from removing them entirely.  

From a conservation standpoint, it seems arrogant and bizarre that we would allow the continued breeding and proliferation of one the major threats to our unique native wildlife. Cats serve no industrial purpose, and are unnecessary. Their utility is derived from being a pleasure to own, and a creature comfort. I don't think it's implausible that we could find a suitable replacement.

Current efforts to mute the negative effects of feral cats, stoats, possums are, in part, negated by the continued proliferation of domestic cats - who, due to irresponsible owners, often cause significant damage to endemic fauna. There's not much point in trying to eliminate all the feral cats, when people's negligence means a continued supply of replacement bird-hunters exists.

*By-laws or even legislation could make it mandatory to ensure cats are kept on the property of the owner at all times, but it would require a fair bit of administrative costs + enforcement to be effective. I spose you could try to offset this by having extremely punitive fines.

Reply #12 Posted: January 22, 2013, 08:05:57 pm

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In Rotorua, theres approximately 60 - 100 cats per square km lol

Reply #13 Posted: January 22, 2013, 09:07:59 pm
Its over rover.


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One cat's heaps.

Reply #14 Posted: January 22, 2013, 09:50:18 pm

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Absolutely with Gareth Morgan.

I think we should take it further.. Treat cats like dogs.. Illegal to let them off your property and if it gets caught roaming the streets it goes to the pound until you pay muchos dinero.

I used to regularly put a .22 slug from an air rifle into any cat I saw on my property, until I was advised that unless I could guarantee a kill it probably wasn't "humane". Still think it should be legal.

Reply #15 Posted: January 22, 2013, 10:04:16 pm

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If you did that to a dog the whole country would be calling for your head.

Reply #16 Posted: January 22, 2013, 10:07:34 pm
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Absolutely with Gareth Morgan.

I think we should take it further.. Treat cats like dogs.. Illegal to let them off your property and if it gets caught roaming the streets it goes to the pound until you pay muchos dinero.

I used to regularly put a .22 slug from an air rifle into any cat I saw on my property, until I was advised that unless I could guarantee a kill it probably wasn't "humane". Still think it should be legal.

You used to be a real fucking winner by the sounds of it lias88.

Reply #17 Posted: January 22, 2013, 10:22:23 pm

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If you did that to a dog the whole country would be calling for your head.

But dogs don't eat native species of NZ like cats do.

Reply #18 Posted: January 22, 2013, 10:31:12 pm

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gareth would do a better job by killing all the pigeons that shit on everything in town to allow other species back into town

also no problems with native birds around my place

Reply #19 Posted: January 22, 2013, 10:36:19 pm
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I think of dogs like career beneficiaries.

They roll around in shit and make a tonne of noise when you don't want them to, eat all your monies, attack your childrens, but then people get all upset when you start shooting them.

Reply #20 Posted: January 22, 2013, 10:37:29 pm
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But dogs don't eat native species of NZ like cats do.

Ahem, Kiwi's.

Reply #21 Posted: January 22, 2013, 10:38:08 pm

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Goats eat our trees, stoats and weasels eat our birds eggs, feral cats eat birds, dogs maul kiwis, possums do all of the above.
Household kitteh eating a few bellbirds isn't really the issue here.

Reply #22 Posted: January 22, 2013, 10:41:10 pm
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My 2 fat snuggle bastard cats are De-sexed, micro-chipped and live indoors. When one sees a fly all it does is make this chatter sound, it can't be bothered trying to get it lol. I think all pets should be registered in some shape or form.

I take them outside on the leash but they don't really care to be out and about.

Reply #23 Posted: January 22, 2013, 11:00:35 pm

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Ahem, Kiwi's.

I think you will actually find cats go for kiwi's more than dogs do.

Dogs aren't nocturnal

Reply #24 Posted: January 22, 2013, 11:03:18 pm