Topic: Gareth Morgan and Cats

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Regarding Kiwis, cats are bad, dogs are worse and stoats & ferrets are evil.

http://www.doc.govt.nz/conservation/native-animals/birds/land-birds/kiwi/threats/

Reply #25 Posted: January 22, 2013, 11:17:17 pm

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Regarding Kiwis, cats are bad, dogs are worse and stoats & ferrets are evil.

http://www.doc.govt.nz/conservation/native-animals/birds/land-birds/kiwi/threats/


"Northland Brown Kiwi"

Reply #26 Posted: January 22, 2013, 11:58:52 pm

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lol, way to split hairs!

:-P

Feel free to post some links to factual information about cat attacks on Kiwis, other than the Northland Brown Kiwi, being worse than dogs then.

(Though I would point out that you never differentiated them in your previous posts.)
Last Edit: January 23, 2013, 12:10:55 am by Pitchey

Reply #27 Posted: January 23, 2013, 12:05:44 am

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Dogs maul shit.
Cats claw shit.

At least cats don't roll around IN shit.

Reply #28 Posted: January 23, 2013, 12:20:14 am
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lol, way to split hairs!

:-P

Feel free to post some links to factual information about cat attacks on Kiwis, other than the Northland Brown Kiwi, being worse than dogs then.

(Though I would point out that you never differentiated them in your previous posts.)


Ok here we go.

http://www.doc.govt.nz/conservation/native-animals/birds/land-birds/northland-brown-kiwi/threats/
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Other parts of New Zealand don’t share the problem to the same extent. Northland is losing kiwi in far greater numbers than other places.


Kooky thinks, *Basically the argument for dogs being worse than cats so far is based primarily on Northland brown kiwi* *how bad could it be in Northland compared to every where else?*

http://www.whakatanekiwi.org.nz/keep-kiwi-safe%2Findex.asp
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One loose dog could decimate the Whakatane kiwi population.


Kooky thinks, *Fuck that's pretty vague, are there any actual documented cases where dogs compare to cats? (form a reputable website that isn't a forum)*

http://www.kcc.org.nz/pet-or-pest
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In 1987 a German shepherd was abandoned in Waitangi State Forest. She was hungry and killing kiwi was easy and fun. In just six months she killed about 500 kiwi, more than half all the kiwi in the forest.


There is one. Its extreme. But one

http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/kiwi/3
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The most dangerous are stoats, which feast on the young birds. Kiwi chicks can resist stoat attacks once they weigh about 1 kilogram, but this is not until they are 40 weeks old. Other predators include dogs, feral cats and even wild pigs, which dig up kiwi burrows. Weka are known to eat kiwi eggs.


So everything kills Kiwis, including Native species.

http://www.doc.govt.nz/conservation/native-animals/birds/land-birds/northland-brown-kiwi/threats/
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Kiwi are also vulnerable to being hit by cars, drowning in swimming pools, fish ponds and trenches and capture in animal pest traps set on the ground.


I mean EVERYTHING including inanimate objects.


Kooky's Conclusion: Our national icon is akin to the Dodo, doesn't matter anyway because they are actually Australian in origin.

Reply #29 Posted: January 23, 2013, 12:53:36 am

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But dogs don't eat native species of NZ like cats do.

Not ture they are killers as well, kiwi,lizard, skink, Dotterel(ground nesting bird) etc: Dog food

Please excuse me.
Last Edit: January 23, 2013, 07:27:59 pm by ploppy slow

Reply #30 Posted: January 23, 2013, 06:58:05 am
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Ban domestic ownership of both.

Reply #31 Posted: January 23, 2013, 07:01:01 am

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Gareth Morgan can take my cat*..... out of my cold dead hand!



*Actually two cats, both rescued and then speyed/neutered, who play well with our dog and if they murder native birds they never bring them in.

Reply #32 Posted: January 23, 2013, 07:01:41 am


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Im fine with it, as long as they dont ban funny cat videos on youtube.

Reply #33 Posted: January 23, 2013, 08:04:09 am

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Cat left a dead bird outside the front of the house yesterday.

This morning all that was left were some blood covered feathers.


It's natures way of recycling.

Reply #34 Posted: January 23, 2013, 08:11:31 am

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I think in this debate there should be a distinction between responsible cat ownership (chipping, Neuturing etc,) which most of us already do, and irresponsible cat ownership

Reply #35 Posted: January 23, 2013, 08:20:11 am

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There's no such thing as responsible pet ownership.

People invest too much emotion in them for that.

Tell someone that their dog is a nuisance and you risk a fistfight, same as if you complain about their kids.

Reply #36 Posted: January 23, 2013, 08:32:27 am

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Some folks think their dog/cat/snake IS their kid!

Reply #37 Posted: January 23, 2013, 04:13:37 pm

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Some folks think their dog/cat/snake IS their kid!

And those people should probably be spayed and neutered too..

Reply #38 Posted: January 23, 2013, 05:34:50 pm

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A few years back I rang around a few spca's to see if I could purchase the fur off the euthanized cats to make rugs, jackets etc. I didn't go down at all well with them.

Gareths suggestion is a step in the right direction for my goal of stylish cat fur clothing on every man woman and child in Levin

Reply #39 Posted: January 23, 2013, 06:10:45 pm

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Wow, some people really hate cats, guess they had some bad childhood memories and now want to take their revenge.

Reply #40 Posted: January 23, 2013, 07:42:51 pm
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Not really fox.. I had cats as a kid and into my early 20's.. Eventually I just just realised that they are an introduced species that is as destructive as possums or didymo, and that they need to be regulated or banned.

Reply #41 Posted: January 23, 2013, 09:16:16 pm

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I barely even like my own cat.

I'll tolerate him on a good day.

I'm the same as Lias. Grew up with cats.

I just see them as completely useless animals. They sleep 10hrs a day, eat, piss indoors, cost a fuck load when they have to go to the vet and behave like absolute idiots on the road. Kind of like most children.

Reply #42 Posted: January 23, 2013, 09:42:24 pm



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So just like dogs then.

Reply #43 Posted: January 23, 2013, 10:01:03 pm
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So just like dogs then.

And people.

Reply #44 Posted: January 23, 2013, 10:04:01 pm

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most dogs and humans can be controlled.....most

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mmm.

You know what you don't see being absolute idiots on the road?
Native birds.

Reply #46 Posted: January 23, 2013, 10:07:15 pm
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Dogs vs Cat thread - GO.

Cats are living, breathing furniture. They exist to be stroked, and fed.

I can interact with a dog. I can sit and look at a cat.

Also, thread tags = WIN.

Reply #47 Posted: January 23, 2013, 10:41:05 pm



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Cats and Dogs go where ever Humans go.

Clearly the problem is Humans.


Also, Dogs (the bigger ones) are more costly to feed and take care off, then cats.

However stray cats are a massive problem, stary dogs rarely are.

Reply #48 Posted: January 24, 2013, 08:17:19 am

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Any dickhead will pick up a cat from the SPCA or one from a friend or Aunty whose cat happened to have a litter, not bother about getting it desexed and let it breed thinking "OMG CUTE, LOOK AT DA KITTYS".

Domestic cats are an issue as much as wild cats.

Reply #49 Posted: January 24, 2013, 08:42:48 am