Topic: The term "Hacking"

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Read this article on tv3

http://www.3news.co.nz/Programmers-battle-it-out-at-3rd-annual-Hacktivate-in-Auckland/tabid/412/articleID/294227/Default.aspx

I don't like how the term hacking is used in this context. To me, hacking means one of two things;

1. Illegal hacking (i.e breaking to government/company systems stealing data etc)

2. A work around in software development (i.e I did this hack to get this certain feature to work). Works for now, but not a good solution and will probably break later on.


This 'Hacktivate' is a coding/programming competition. I guess they're trying to make it sound cooler, but it doesn't sit well with me.

Posted: April 15, 2013, 01:44:47 pm

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I agree, but I'd like to add another definition of hacking.

There is such a term coined as "White Hat Hacking", which is taking your point 1, and applying it in scenarios that improve security. It's not illegal, and a lot of companies do this to improve security; I certainly define that as hacking, be it not as glamorous as hacking the PSN and leaking info.

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To me, It fits in the same basket as the following 'cringe' uses of the word:
 - You left your facebook logged in on my computer, so I "hacked it" and posted something derogatory on your wall
 - Using a WINZ Kiosk, I clicked on 'my network places' and all these files were just openly available to me, I 'hacked' the network
 - etc...

Reply #2 Posted: April 15, 2013, 03:28:21 pm
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It also pertains to casual riding of farm horses.

Although I'm not sure that adds anything to the thread.

Reply #3 Posted: April 15, 2013, 03:32:50 pm

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HACKING AROUND THE PADDOCK IN AN OLD JALOPY.

Reply #4 Posted: April 15, 2013, 05:59:54 pm
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When two sticks clash together in an unsportsmanly way during a game of Hockey.

Reply #5 Posted: April 15, 2013, 06:00:20 pm
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Failing at a tree with an axe with no structured technique.

Reply #6 Posted: April 15, 2013, 06:00:54 pm
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Crackers vs Hacking.
Hacking is often done in the process of cracking.

Agree with last statement of OP though.

ps, didn't read article.

Reply #7 Posted: April 15, 2013, 06:02:06 pm
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Pyro, go home, you're drunk.

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Feed me work I can hack on.
Then pay me for my hacks.


Implementing shit properly;
Ain't nobody got time fo' that.

Reply #9 Posted: April 15, 2013, 06:05:12 pm
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Not quite as bad as the way the media use "trolling" etc.

Xeno, go home, you're not drunk.

Reply #10 Posted: April 15, 2013, 06:13:44 pm

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that entire article was cringe worthy as fuck, regardless of the hacking term.
Makes it sound like programming is some sort of teenager thing or a fad that is either cool or not rather than a huge industry.

Reply #11 Posted: April 15, 2013, 06:26:54 pm

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that entire article was cringe worthy as fuck, regardless of the hacking term.
Makes it sound like programming is some sort of teenager thing or a fad that is either cool or not rather than a huge industry.

The wave looks like this – a crowd of computer programmers all in one place. There are trendy haircuts, trendy hats and, in charge, trendy men.

Reply #12 Posted: April 15, 2013, 07:04:56 pm

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Xeno, go home, you're not drunk.


Oh yes he is.



Reply #13 Posted: April 15, 2013, 07:12:56 pm

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Oh yes he is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk_--FYShDI&feature=youtu.be


omg it went on for the full length

Reply #14 Posted: April 15, 2013, 07:24:01 pm

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omg it went on for the full length
I'm not one to disappoint.

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Failing at a tree with an axe with no structured technique.

i think thats flailing.. as in to swing wildly... you sir are failing....

Reply #16 Posted: April 15, 2013, 08:13:27 pm

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i think thats flailing.. as in to swing wildly... you sir are failing....

Not my fault my L is too awesome for GetSome in slow doublepost mode.


PS, dafuq did I just listen to?
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Reply #17 Posted: April 15, 2013, 09:36:33 pm
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I'd extend legitimate uses to writing code using trial and error methods without really understanding what you're doing, I'd say something like "I just hacked away at it until it worked", "you can tell this code has just been hacked together"

Also hacking in terms of devices, wikipedia states on the hack-a-day wiki entry "A hack here refers to modifications of a product or software as well as creation of something entirely new for convenience, novelty, function or creativity."

But what craig said hits the nail on the head.

I'd even go so far as to say people dumb enough to click on the bullshit links on facebook that spam everybody aren't hacked, they're just stupid.

Reply #18 Posted: April 15, 2013, 11:37:06 pm
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THIS IS WHAT A HACKER IS, ALL OTHER DEFINITIONS ARE WRONG.

Good work SM, you managed to out-derp an article about men wearing fedoras.

Reply #19 Posted: April 16, 2013, 12:41:52 am

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.

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Oh yes he is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk_--FYShDI&feature=youtu.be


That was Magical

On a side note on the definition of Hacking - Hacking can also mean playing around with Code to do something cool and new - which I believe this competition would fall under

Reply #20 Posted: April 16, 2013, 08:25:29 am

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It makes me look more professional.

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I always wear a balaclava while I'm at work.

It makes me look more professional.

I am wearing my Affliction Hoody at work - cause its cold and my hoodie is made of warms and awesomeness

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