How many people actually die from the flu anyway?. I would wager big money that it's sod all,
Not really, he used pretty poor testing methods and there was no follow up research. For example his sample size was 12, way too small to get any meaningful results. There's also evidence that he had a big conflict of interest, he was receiving money from trial lawyers suing the drug companies while he was doing the research (http://briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-deer-1.htm).
It annoys the shit out of me when people blab on about small sample sizes of reports as if they're the only one who's sat stat100. I'm pretty sure a surgeon and medical researcher knows a sample size of 12 isn't sufficient to draw a conclusion, which is probably why he didn't. In fact it's probably why he suggested further research needed to be done. Probably because his sample size was too small.
My point wasn't "Why do we have a tetanus vaccine"I completely understand having it prior to the fact, at scheduled intervals, to build immunity..What I was saying was, it's quite common practice for people to be administered the vaccine, after they have been exposed to the real thing, (e.g. going to hospital after impaling yourself on a rusty nail) and I was wondering how that was actually helpful.. "Oh you have been infected with tetanus, here, have more dead tetanus"I was genuinely interested if anyone had any insight into the reasoning behind that practice, because it doesn't make sense to me.
I do wonder how they came to such numbers though.
and lots of those deaths were back in the dark ages of medicine I guess,
I don't know a single person who has died from the flu, or even come close to it. Have you had someone in your immediate circle of fam/friends who has?.
I like to question the motivations behind the scourge of vaccines that have come out. I personally won't touch one ever again.
What interests me more, is why places like the CDC keep smallpox, and other mass killing contagious diseases in storage, rather than nuking them, like they should have. What "use" do they have, if we truly want to disease wiped out. If it pops up again in some remote corner of the world, you have fresh samples to use, to do whatever they do with them, you don't need a reference library of death kept "just in case"
I just suck a lot of dick.
I like to question how someone could be so stupid to not ever have a vaccination ever again.
Quote from Xsannz: November 13, 2014, 01:02:55 pmit's a controlled way for your body to develop the antigens to deal with it.thus the flu vaccine which is incubated in chicken eggs causes allergic reactions in patients who are allergic to eggs, and is so difficult to produce quickly, they have found a new technique using insects which is a lot more stable and efficientIt's not always the egg method, they add the lovely Squalene agent too.If you start at the beginning, and see how a flu virus is contracted, it enters the body via either mucous glands in the mouth or nose. No virus gets injected into a persons arm, other than the one they call "Vaccination". I have had maybe 3 genuine full on flus in my life, and I am a severe asthmatic, and I am still breathing. How many people actually die from the flu anyway?. I would wager big money that it's sod all, and the ones that do, would be old, or infirm.Fascinating subject, but a real hornets nest if you kick it hard enough enough
it's a controlled way for your body to develop the antigens to deal with it.thus the flu vaccine which is incubated in chicken eggs causes allergic reactions in patients who are allergic to eggs, and is so difficult to produce quickly, they have found a new technique using insects which is a lot more stable and efficient
You're an anti-vacc twat.Anything you say on any subject, has now been, and forever will be seen as utter tripe.Have a good day.
Quote from Pyromanik: November 13, 2014, 12:08:43 pmQuote from Craigorsarus: November 13, 2014, 10:34:45 amDarkvirus and I were discussing Tetanus the other day..From our understanding the way most vaccines work, is by exposing you to a small, disarmed amount of 'the virus'So if you impale yourself on a rusty nail, how does asking if your tetanus is up to date, and then exposing yourself to more of it, help?Because it's a vaccine, NOT A FUCKING CURE.That was my point.. it seems like an inappropriate time for it lol..
Quote from Craigorsarus: November 13, 2014, 10:34:45 amDarkvirus and I were discussing Tetanus the other day..From our understanding the way most vaccines work, is by exposing you to a small, disarmed amount of 'the virus'So if you impale yourself on a rusty nail, how does asking if your tetanus is up to date, and then exposing yourself to more of it, help?Because it's a vaccine, NOT A FUCKING CURE.
Darkvirus and I were discussing Tetanus the other day..From our understanding the way most vaccines work, is by exposing you to a small, disarmed amount of 'the virus'So if you impale yourself on a rusty nail, how does asking if your tetanus is up to date, and then exposing yourself to more of it, help?
MMR doesn't do chickenpox, which I'm pretty sure is a right of passage every kid goes through
Pyro lolbags you can get vaccinated for the pox these days!!
Sometimes I wonder about you. Then you say things like this, and the world is right again.
Do people still have civilised discussions, without the angst kiddie-rage?. So much anger The Farce is strong in this one.......
Have you tried manually updating Punkbuster?