THe Flag thread.

[Bounty Hunter]

It works because a² = b² + c² - 2bc cos a

*cos A

#wellinformed

[The Demon Lord]

TRIANGLES!

[Lias]

TRIANGLES!

Are a symbol of the illuminati!

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

TRIANGLES!

Are a symbol of the illuminati!

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

For all those who want to keep our existing flag. You agree with Justin Bieber.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/72614231/bieber-wades-into-nz-flag-debate

[Speakman]

so because he likes it, it definitely changes, right?

[Speakman]

Also, $20 + $5 shipping if you want to get one of the 5 alternates 1.8 x 0.9m


http://new.grabone.co.nz/house-garden/house-garden/p/one-of-five-potential-nz-flags

[Lias]

I am tempted to spend the $100 for all of them so I can film myself wiping my arse with them for youtube.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

Also, $20 + $5 shipping if you want to get one of the 5 alternates 1.8 x 0.9m


http://new.grabone.co.nz/house-garden/house-garden/p/one-of-five-potential-nz-flags

They could have at least ironed them before taking the photos. All those fold creases ruin the look.

[Tiwaking!]

Very annoyed with the voting papers for the flag. Considering making a video the paper on fire instead of voting. There is no option to opt out of the vote, so if you dont want the flag to change and you vote then you automatically lose.

Also: The electoral commission wants people to not share photos of their papers.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/74282570/electoral-commission-warns-kiwis-against-sharing-photos-of-flag-voting-papers

It's nice to see some people had the same idea I had. Unfortunately, it breaks all of the voting rules.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

Very annoyed with the voting papers for the flag. Considering making a video the paper on fire instead of voting. There is no option to opt out of the vote, so if you dont want the flag to change and you vote then you automatically lose.

Also: The electoral commission wants people to not share photos of their papers.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/74282570/electoral-commission-warns-kiwis-against-sharing-photos-of-flag-voting-papers

It's nice to see some people had the same idea I had. Unfortunately, it breaks all of the voting rules.

You mean people have the inability to freakin read a sheet of paper?

There is vote to decide if you don't want a flag change, it happens in March, it says so right on the voting form.

All those people spoiling there voting papers are morons.

[Clin]

You might as well vote for the flag you think is best. I was going to cast a null vote but then I though of something.

In the unlikely event that the vote to change passes, I at least want a voice in choosing the design I prefer. Think about it. Vote no to change, but cover your bases.

I think I like the plain silver fern in black and white, but that's a bit of a "fuck you" to all the kiddies trying to draw something so complex in primary school.

[420fairy]

Very annoyed with the voting papers for the flag. Considering making a video the paper on fire instead of voting. There is no option to opt out of the vote, so if you dont want the flag to change and you vote then you automatically lose.

Also: The electoral commission wants people to not share photos of their papers.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/74282570/electoral-commission-warns-kiwis-against-sharing-photos-of-flag-voting-papers

It's nice to see some people had the same idea I had. Unfortunately, it breaks all of the voting rules.

You mean people have the inability to freakin read a sheet of paper?

There is vote to decide if you don't want a flag change, it happens in March, it says so right on the voting form.

All those people spoiling there voting papers are morons.

Wouldnt it make more financial sense to have the option to keep the current flag on the first referendum?

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

Wouldnt it make more financial sense to have the option to keep the current flag on the first referendum?

No, because how could you decide to change the flag if you don't yet know what it will be changed to?

[420fairy]

Wouldnt it make more financial sense to have the option to keep the current flag on the first referendum?

No, because how could you decide to change the flag if you don't yet know what it will be changed to?

Including the current flag as an option on the first alongside the other 5 so you know what options are available should give you a damn good idea on how many want or do not want it changed.

[Retardobot]

No, because how could you decide to change the flag if you don't yet know what it will be changed to?

Because they include what it could be changed to on the form. It says so right there.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

Including the current flag as an option on the first alongside the other 5 so you know what options are available should give you a damn good idea on how many want or do not want it changed.

That would introduce a bias against changing the flag.

[The Demon Lord]

Including the current flag as an option on the first alongside the other 5 so you know what options are available should give you a damn good idea on how many want or do not want it changed.

That would introduce a bias against changing the flag.

Which is precisely why it should be included - 1 referendum as opposed to 2.

[Zarkov]

Very annoyed with the voting papers for the flag. Considering making a video the paper on fire instead of voting. There is no option to opt out of the vote, so if you dont want the flag to change and you vote then you automatically lose.

Also: The electoral commission wants people to not share photos of their papers.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/74282570/electoral-commission-warns-kiwis-against-sharing-photos-of-flag-voting-papers

It's nice to see some people had the same idea I had. Unfortunately, it breaks all of the voting rules.

Tiwa loses 2nd smartest person in forums position.

Moves seamlessly to dumbest person position.

Spacemonkey moves up to 2nd place.

[toofast]

Including the current flag as an option on the first alongside the other 5 so you know what options are available should give you a damn good idea on how many want or do not want it changed.

That would introduce a bias against changing the flag.

Which is precisely why it should be included - 1 referendum as opposed to 2.

Unless you get 50%+ saying they don't want to change the flag on the first one, you will need the second one.

[Tiwaking!]

Very annoyed with the voting papers for the flag. Considering making a video the paper on fire instead of voting. There is no option to opt out of the vote, so if you dont want the flag to change and you vote then you automatically lose.

Also: The electoral commission wants people to not share photos of their papers.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/74282570/electoral-commission-warns-kiwis-against-sharing-photos-of-flag-voting-papers

It's nice to see some people had the same idea I had. Unfortunately, it breaks all of the voting rules.

Tiwa loses 2nd smartest person in forums position.

Moves seamlessly to dumbest person position.

Spacemonkey moves up to 2nd place.

If someone feels strongly about not changing the flag then this referendum is like asking that person body part they would like to be punched in.

And they're asking it before the winner is announced.
http://www.getsome.co.nz/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=84028.0;attach=7855;image

[sgt_munter]

If you draw a line between the bottom of the south island, and the top of the north island - NZ is a triangle
If you look at our Mountain Ranges - they are made up of Triangles
If you look at our boat builders - the hulls look like triangles.
If you look at our national sport (Rugby) - a Rugby ball is pretty much 2 triangles stuck together.
If you look at NZ - the Letters N and Z are pretty much made up of 2 triangles apeice.

Now that I have had it's significance explained to me, I clearly see why this is the best design.

No no no, he's not a graphic designer, ideally Rii needs to tell you about the strength of the triangle and the modes of affluence the colours are contrived from.

Flag works because it is massively contemporary. It can't be linked to any previously established brand. The koru designs and fern designs where shit because every fucking Joe Fuck Face has some sort of koru pattern or fern in their NZ business logo, we're tired of seeing the same emblems being trotted out.

Also, I have no fucking clue about flag designing. It's an entirely different beast and has to please a nation, not a marketing board, despite what those fuck-holes at National think.

dunno looks pretty similar to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Vexillological_Association

also about wasting the 26mill, that is just the price of the referendum not the price of actually changing anything

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

I don't get why people are getting so hung up about the money.

The government spends much larger sums on other things and nobody cares. But then we have a democratic referendum, and people say it's a waste of money? You would rather John Key just picked a flag and not let anyone else have a say? That would have been much cheaper.

And it's not wasted, the money gets pay directly back into the NZ economy, Employee wages, NZ post etc

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

If someone feels strongly about not changing the flag then this referendum is like asking that person body part they would like to be punched in.

Then don't vote in it.

[The Demon Lord]

I don't get why people are getting so hung up about the money.

The government spends much larger sums on other things and nobody cares. But then we have a democratic referendum, and people say it's a waste of money? You would rather John Key just picked a flag and not let anyone else have a say? That would have been much cheaper.

And it's not wasted, the money gets pay directly back into the NZ economy, Employee wages, NZ post etc

1: it wasn't a change that anyone wanted (polling before it was announced I think from memory was 70% against changing the flag)
2: its a lot of money for a bunch of 'consultants' to ponce around the country, having a nice holiday on my tax Dollar.
3: If you are going to raise the Democratic aspect - then why ignore the pre-flag polling showing that no one wanted a change, further more why did they not do an initial and much cheaper referendum with 2 options 'Should we change the flag Y/N'
4: It's my money they are wasting - Cunts.