United States Presidential Debates

[Lias]

I don't like Donald Trump, I don't think he's going to be a great president, but I strongly believe he was the better of the two choices on offer.

Of the policies he's offered up, here's where I sit.

Abortion: I'm pro-choice, and Roe v Wade being overturned is probably the single biggest thing that's going to happen under Trump that I'm concerned about.

Immigration: Mass immigration from foreign cultures is a huge problem both in the west. You don't get to move to a country for a better life and then demand it adapts to you, you need to adapt to it. That means speaking English, wearing western clothing,  and fully integrating rather than being an enclave of your homeland. Cannot fault any of his policies here, NZ is lagging way behind the US and Australia when it comes to dealing with this. Obviously we can't build a wall, but our navy should be out helping the Aussies intercept boats, and like Australia we should be rounding up illegals, over-stayers, non native born criminals and people of bad character and putting them in interment camps before deporting them.

Guns: 100% support here, NZ needs to liberalize it's firearms laws, ditch the restrictions around MSSA's and pistols, introduce castle law and implicitly allow deadly force to be used in self defense, to prevent a crime, or when you fear for your safety. They also need to replace the "good character" guidelines around firearms ownership, it's WAY too grey area, because it's completely at the discretion of the police. It should be a case of if you are convicted of "XYZ" list of crimes, you are disqualified from owning a gun, just like a security guards license, rather than depending on what police officer you deal with and what mood they are in.

Foreign policy: Mixed bag for me, but on the whole he's going to be playing less "world police" which I like. Trump supports Israel, and is anti Iran which I don'y support, but he's also basically promised to bomb ISIL out of existence, even if it means turning the ISIL controlled parts of the world into radioactive glass, which I'm absolutely in favour of.

Gay Marriage: I'm in favour, and despite a crapload of liberal bleating he's basically said he doesn't mind it. Hell he just appointed an openly gay man to his transition team. Don't think its the issue some are making it out to be.

Trade: Anti FTA's, and has vowed to kill the TPPA, which in my humble opinion all by itself would make him the most worthy candidate. He could literally be the next Stalin or Pol Pot and ditching the TPPA would still make him a better person than Clinton.

Law & Order: Pretty happy with his policy here, hard on crime works for me, only real concern I have is that he might try and restart the failed war on drugs, when they just need to up and end prohibition.

Environment: Not looking good here at all, Whilst I don't think we should be going as far as the green types demand, we need to accept that climate change is real, it's man made, and look at way's we can reduce our impact on the planet where it doesn't place an undue burden on us.

Education: One of my biggest concerns about Trump, things like Intelligent Design and creationism will be back in the books, and a new generation of brainwashed biblethumpers will emerge.

Think that covers most of what I have an opinion on.



 

[Tiwaking!]

You think racism and bigotry are refreshing?

You are a terrible person.

As a terrible person I am offended that you think I wouldnt vote for my ideals.

My ideal candidate was Donald Trump. He represented everything I want to see in the world.

Racism, bigotry, misogyny, comedy.

And most important of all: Reality.


Its time to wake up world. Your children grew up retarded, they dont even vote, and its time to abort the lot of them and try again.


#makeAmericagreatagain

Spoiler :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

Hillary represented the continuation of the same old system thats slowly but surely been destroying the middle class. The system that favours corporate interests over working families. I don't think people voted for Trump as much as they voted against Hillary.

Hillary is the worst politician in history.

In History.

[Pyromanik]

This is a very interesting read. http://imgur.com/gallery/SxpJC
I think ol' mate Tiwa would rather enjoy the 'first part' from March (linked in link).

[Tiwaking!]

This is a very interesting read. http://imgur.com/gallery/SxpJC
I think ol' mate Tiwa would rather enjoy the 'first part' from March (linked in link).

Those who are not capable of understanding true reality are generally incapable of comprehending it either

[Hoboneer]

This is a very interesting read. http://imgur.com/gallery/SxpJC
I think ol' mate Tiwa would rather enjoy the 'first part' from March (linked in link).

I have been enlightened because of this. I understand now...

[Retardobot]

This silent majority has credit. You're doing what the media did, Monkey. Falsely accuse a large sect of people for being racist, misogynist and bigots. SO they rebelled because there was only one direction where those accusations where coming from and it was camp Hillary. DNC put up a silly choice and called everyone hate mongers for declining her merit.

[Tiwaking!]

I don't like Donald Trump, I don't think he's going to be a great president

I think Donald Trump is the greatest American President since Teddy Roosevelt. This is probably because I support self-sufficient isolationist anti-taxation ultra-capitalist anti-immigration (Nah mate, we're full). He is also against giving foreign aid to countries - why does China get foreign aid? Why does India get foreign aid? Both of these countries have space programs. We dont have a space program - why do we give them money? Where did our $90 million to the Ukraine go?


Hopefully Donald Trump throws out all of the anti-oil legislation and gets rid of Electric Vehicles. The American power grid cant handle this EV nonsense - especially if it is driven by Chinese mass dumping their substandarly produced unsafe cheap EV's onto the market globally. The only positives of the Chinesium EV's is it is killing the idiotic woke western car companies who jumped on the government subsidised EV gravy train - the same governments who cant afford to house or employ everyone let alone pay for an incredibly short-sighted corruption ridden failure of environmental policy.

If he can once again drive American petrol prices to below $3 I think no one will be able to stop him being put as one of America's best presidents. There has never been a President who has had so much negative press. According to the media statistics the breakdown of negative to positive media coverage for Donald Trump from 2015 - 2021 was 13% Positive vs 87% Negative / Neutral (split roughly 50/50). Today? Its 87% negative. To put that into perspective: Every day there are 6 articles an hour about Donald Trump. So, out of the roughly 368000 articles over 7 years: 206000 were not negative with 47,000 being positive.

Fast forward to today over two years of media coverage: out of the 105000 articles: 92,0000 are negative. And I wont even start on the absolutely disgraceful "Donald Trump is Hitler" articles - the media outlets who said this should be sued out of existence. Never forget that the report on the Assassination attempt on Donald Trump was reported as "An event" and "Donald Trump experienced a loud noise" and "Fell over".


Lias's views are really interesting especially compared to todays environment - here is Americas current situation:


Abortion - Nobody cares. No one can afford food or housing. The Christian and Religious voting block are happy about the change but it is not going to make a dent in the fertility crisis. People cant afford food, they cant afford housing, they can barely afford to drive to work which pays them to continue to exist and nothing more. 12% of Americans are on food stamps. 35% of them spend everything they earn every week on basic living costs with nothing left for savings. Who is going to have kids in that kind of environment? Put a condom on.

Immigration - You want to be a sanctuary city? Fuck you pay for it yourself! No federal handouts to these crime ridden cesspits. Texas had enough of your liberal whiny shit and pumped your democrat strongholds full of invaders. Why is New York City spending billions of dollars on illegal aliens when it doesnt have a fully functioning police force or space for housing? Even the most bleeding heart hippie leftists are starting to complain, and worse the actually poverty stricken people in these areas are wondering why these dudes who just turned up yesterday are getting more support than the locals who are actual citizens and pay taxes.

Guns - I grew up with guns. Guns are awesome! The New Zealand government has totally fucked over our gun owners to the extent that only criminals have guns now. You have a gun licence in NZ? Fuck you! You are on the criminal list now. Are you a gang member which a massive stockpile of guns stolen from legitimate owners who had a gun licence? Police Sleep. Are you the guy with the gun licence who had your guns stolen? Police FUCK YOU STRAIGHT TO JAIL!!!!

Foreign Policy - Fuck Ukraine! Stop giving them money when they are going to lose and can never possibly win - why is America giving them money when the other NATO countries contribute pennies. Why is Iran killing Americans? Why are American troops being attacked in Syria? Why is America not bombing these countries back to the stone age? Why is America paying companies in China and India to undercut products in America? Why is America subsidising its car industry to ship its manufacturing to Mexico? Why is Mexico and Canada allowed to flood America with fentanyl? Labour in NZ are threatening to pull out ANZUSUK? American Foreign Policy should be and always be - America Number 1 because Fuck Around and Find Out Why

Gay Marriage - considering the divorce rate for this is twice that of other marriages, maybe this wasnt such a great idea. Should stick to civil unions instead.

Trade - As mentioned earlier I am an isolationist anti-taxation ultra-capitalist. Also anti-globalist. China are using Teemu to bypass American tariffs on goods. Tariff everything. American companies want to outsource their manufacturing? You get tariffed. China want to flood America with poor quality substandard goods? Welcome to tariffland. China want to bypass American tariffs by shipping goods to Canada and Mexico first through their free trade agreements and flood the northern and southern borders? FUCK YOU - Canada and Mexico get tariffs!

Hey Europe! Are you having problems selling your goods because China has flooded your market with substandard everything? HAHAHA Fuck you! Also - buy American gas because you cant get cheap Russian gas and American gas costs 3 times as much and you dont have a choice. Thats the American way!

Law and Order - Pop star Lizzo ripped online after saying ‘the whole country will be like Detroit’ if Kamala wins

Environment - Trump will do his best to scrap this department.

Education - Trump has scrapped this department.